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SSBUSDRVR · 05-09-2016, 05:35 PM

Sounds Great.

Run ARH No Cats thru FM American Thunder and just too quiet for me personally. Switching to Outlaws.

Texas_RS · 05-10-2016, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SSBUSDRVR

Sounds Great.

Run ARH No Cats thru FM American Thunder and just too quiet for me personally. Switching to Outlaws.

Pretty much how I feel about most exhaust systems, seem too quiet. If I was to ever get a exhaust it would be outlaws for sure. Sounds good OP

BradySS · 05-10-2016, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

No mufflers at all? That sounds like, well.......... Poo......... LOL. I don't care for cars that have no tonal quality to it. To each their own of course! Congrats on the new mods.

I guess I am one of the guys that has a car that sounds like poo. Longtubes, cam, no cats and no mufflers. It's usually only the guys with a couple bolt ons I get comments like yours from. Tried a couple different mufflers on this setup and my last G8 and it just has to much resonance in the cabin with mufflers. Plus it sounds better without them.

2010reddevil · 05-10-2016, 01:16 PM

A couple of my friends with much stouter cars than me were the same way. Then they heard my car/s. For healthy on the outside and not so deafening on the inside, I prefer something along the lines of a Flowmaster 60 series or Deltaflow 40 series. Magnaflow 5x8x14 also get my vote for being meaty on the outside without being too loud inside. Straight pipe are the loudest inside and out and have no tonal quality. It's like running a drag car on the street. Just because it's loud as fu*k all doesn't mean it sounds good. Sometimes less is more. Again, to each their own. And just because my Camaro had a few bolt-ons doesn't mean that I don't know what sounds good while being loud. My old 91 Fox coupe would have gladly changed your mind in short order about what "a few bolt-ons" can do.........LOL.

BradySS · 05-10-2016, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

A couple of my friends with much stouter cars than me were the same way. Then they heard my car/s. For healthy on the outside and not so deafening on the inside, I prefer something along the lines of a Flowmaster 60 series or Deltaflow 40 series. Magnaflow 5x8x14 also get my vote for being meaty on the outside without being too loud inside. Straight pipe are the loudest inside and out and have no tonal quality. It's like running a drag car on the street. Just because it's loud as fu*k all doesn't mean it sounds good. Sometimes less is more. Again, to each their own. And just because my Camaro had a few bolt-ons doesn't mean that I don't know what sounds good while being loud. My old 91 Fox coupe would have gladly changed your mind in short order about what "a few bolt-ons" can do.........LOL.

Cool, post a video and I already have one on here. I got two foxbodys as well and both of them run no mufflers. My turbo stang is tubbed, caged and has an LQ9 swap. Search my YouTube Channel you can see the cars. We will have the general Camaro5.com community take their pick on what sounds better.

https://goo.gl/photos/oYoBsBnnQS94X48K9

2010reddevil · 05-10-2016, 11:40 PM

Shit man, I haven't had that car in over 16 yrs. It was a DSS built 393 stroker with D1-SC @ 12 psi. ARP everything, Manley rods, Diamond pistons, Trickflow heads, track heat intake manifold and the exhaust setup was Kooks LT's to 3" with at first, Flowmaster Deltaflow 40's dumped, then I changed them out for MagnaFlow 5x8x14 dumped. The Flows sounded badass as they do on all 4.6L and Pushrod 5.0L Mustangs. The sound was pretty damn loud inside. When I got my last tune from Murillo, he suggested the MagnaFlow and I never heard of them until then. Gave them a try and I was sold. That's a pretty nice looking Fox you have there. Damn shame you had to ruin it w/a Chevy motor. Again, to each their own. Back then, there was a couple of guys who talked about SBC being the best engine because it's cheap to work on. My response was if it's built right and designed right, shouldn't have to work on it all the time. I'm all for saving a buck, but I can build a 351W for nearly the same cost as a built LSx swap that fits easier and makes the same or more power than the LSx. And I'd take a 408W vs a 408 LSx any day of the week.

BradySS · 05-11-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

Shit man, I haven't had that car in over 16 yrs. It was a DSS built 393 stroker with D1-SC @ 12 psi. ARP everything, Manley rods, Diamond pistons, Trickflow heads, track heat intake manifold and the exhaust setup was Kooks LT's to 3" with at first, Flowmaster Deltaflow 40's dumped, then I changed them out for MagnaFlow 5x8x14 dumped. The Flows sounded badass as they do on all 4.6L and Pushrod 5.0L Mustangs. The sound was pretty damn loud inside. When I got my last tune from Murillo, he suggested the MagnaFlow and I never heard of them until then. Gave them a try and I was sold. That's a pretty nice looking Fox you have there. Damn shame you had to ruin it w/a Chevy motor. Again, to each their own. Back then, there was a couple of guys who talked about SBC being the best engine because it's cheap to work on. My response was if it's built right and designed right, shouldn't have to work on it all the time. I'm all for saving a buck, but I can build a 351W for nearly the same cost as a built LSx swap that fits easier and makes the same or more power than the LSx. And I'd take a 408W vs a 408 LSx any day of the week.

Sounds like a nice setup. To honest I used to be a die hard Ford guy and that Mustang was what turned me into a GM fan. I had a 306 Ford in it with heads intake cam and a 67mm turbonetics bb but I had a friend that had a couple blocks go south on his with similar power and decided I would play it safe and upgrade my block and bottom end. Well after pricing out the Dart Block I needed for the power I wanted to run I was blown away at the price. Not to mention about the only thing left Ford on the car would've been the water pump and alternator. Long story short I bought the Iron LQ9 engine and transmission that is really strong for less money than just the Dart Block and I'm faster to boot. The swaps are awesome though it weeds out all the GM and Ford fan boys and the people that talk socialize with you are the true gear heads that just love cars.

2010reddevil · 05-11-2016, 10:26 AM

Yeah good point there. The 351W block is very strong though. Way stronger than the 5.0L block. They don't need anything special or fancy except a good balanced rotating assembly and ARP hardware to hold it together. Here's a testament to how stout a stock 351W is.

Junkyard 351W Turbo Dyno

BradySS · 05-11-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

Yeah good point there. The 351W block is very strong though. Way stronger than the 5.0L block. They don't need anything special or fancy except a good balanced rotating assembly and ARP hardware to hold it together. Here's a testament to how stout a stock 351W is.

Junkyard 351W Turbo Dyno

Yeah that's pretty stout there. Those big bang article's are good. They did one on a 5.3ls engine and at the end when they tore the motor down to inspect the wear on it found out it was a 4.8. Pretty funny. It is what it is though. I got a coupe I'm building that still has a Ford in it that hopefully I'll finish one day if I can quit messing around with this Camaro.

2010reddevil · 05-11-2016, 03:40 PM

Yeah that's what I mean. There's a lot of ignorance about the 351W strength. It's a very stout engine in its own right. They're a dime a dozen too. Get one and put ARP hardware with forged pistons and good rings, possibly stronger rods and have at it. For what it's worth, I wanna build another G-body with a 6.0 or 6.2 and either carb/spray it or EFI and T76 or bigger.

Rocco70 · 05-16-2016, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeless Man

How raspy is it

Sorry for the long time to response it I don't think it's raspy at all

Rocco70 · 05-16-2016, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WheelMan69

Wow does that sound amazing!!!

Thank you I love its a attention getter that's for sure

Rocco70 · 05-16-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WeflyhereSS

omg !!! i love it!!!

Thanks

Rocco70 · 05-16-2016, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

The Outlaws actually have a very deep and throaty tone to them. Having heard the same setup on both my car and my friends Coyote, I definitely think the LS3 sounds much better with them. The only issue is heavy drone right at 80 mph. Keep it below or above and it's just fine. They are definitely loud as hell though.

I think it's got a nice tone and when you get it up around 4500 she sound so awesome you hear me for miles. The Xpipe really changed the sound everyone who hears it in person says it sounds angry at idle. I have a little drone at about 2,000 rpm. But anything above it surprisingly quiet in the cab.

05-09-2016, 05:35 PM	#15
SSBUSDRVR Drives: '11 2SS/RS IBM/BLK M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,746 View My Garage	Sounds Great. Run ARH No Cats thru FM American Thunder and just too quiet for me personally. Switching to Outlaws. __________________ '11 IBM 2SS/RS Built and Tuned by Vengeance Racing Vengeance PCM Vengeance Racing Mast Black Label LS7 Headed 416 ProCharger Stage II D1X Race ,Monster Triple,Alky Control Meth Inj, Forgestar F14 Drag Version and a bunch of other blah blah blah.838/688 at 12lbs Street Friendly

05-10-2016, 01:16 PM	#18
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	A couple of my friends with much stouter cars than me were the same way. Then they heard my car/s. For healthy on the outside and not so deafening on the inside, I prefer something along the lines of a Flowmaster 60 series or Deltaflow 40 series. Magnaflow 5x8x14 also get my vote for being meaty on the outside without being too loud inside. Straight pipe are the loudest inside and out and have no tonal quality. It's like running a drag car on the street. Just because it's loud as fu*k all doesn't mean it sounds good. Sometimes less is more. Again, to each their own. And just because my Camaro had a few bolt-ons doesn't mean that I don't know what sounds good while being loud. My old 91 Fox coupe would have gladly changed your mind in short order about what "a few bolt-ons" can do.........LOL. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

05-11-2016, 10:26 AM	#22
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	Yeah good point there. The 351W block is very strong though. Way stronger than the 5.0L block. They don't need anything special or fancy except a good balanced rotating assembly and ARP hardware to hold it together. Here's a testament to how stout a stock 351W is. Junkyard 351W Turbo Dyno __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

05-11-2016, 03:40 PM	#24
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	Yeah that's what I mean. There's a lot of ignorance about the 351W strength. It's a very stout engine in its own right. They're a dime a dozen too. Get one and put ARP hardware with forged pistons and good rings, possibly stronger rods and have at it. For what it's worth, I wanna build another G-body with a 6.0 or 6.2 and either carb/spray it or EFI and T76 or bigger. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

05-10-2016, 11:40 PM	#20
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	Shit man, I haven't had that car in over 16 yrs. It was a DSS built 393 stroker with D1-SC @ 12 psi. ARP everything, Manley rods, Diamond pistons, Trickflow heads, track heat intake manifold and the exhaust setup was Kooks LT's to 3" with at first, Flowmaster Deltaflow 40's dumped, then I changed them out for MagnaFlow 5x8x14 dumped. The Flows sounded badass as they do on all 4.6L and Pushrod 5.0L Mustangs. The sound was pretty damn loud inside. When I got my last tune from Murillo, he suggested the MagnaFlow and I never heard of them until then. Gave them a try and I was sold. That's a pretty nice looking Fox you have there. Damn shame you had to ruin it w/a Chevy motor. Again, to each their own. Back then, there was a couple of guys who talked about SBC being the best engine because it's cheap to work on. My response was if it's built right and designed right, shouldn't have to work on it all the time. I'm all for saving a buck, but I can build a 351W for nearly the same cost as a built LSx swap that fits easier and makes the same or more power than the LSx. And I'd take a 408W vs a 408 LSx any day of the week.