2015 Camaro 2SS - Can i change only the rear tires?

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by JLSuperfly

I drive with my stock P-Zeros all year long even when it is cold. But where I live, cold means wear pants, not shorts.

Lol exactly. ....cold means different things to different people. If the OP said snow ice and freezing temps I would say snow tires all the way around. I picked up my car 6 hours away from my house....the night before I was to get it there was 2 ft of snow on the ground. Original P zeros on all 4 corners.....rears were a little greasy but the fronts were fine.....lord help me for driving in snow on summer tires.

[Reichler]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

He said cold weather roads....where does it say winter ..snow and ice. Don't exaggerate driving in the cold. If he said im driving in snow ...ice then I would have said to change them all out. If your afraid to leave your front Pirellis on in "cold " weather then back to driving school for you bud. He doesnt have a location either.

Yes, he said cold, which Stock PZero's shouldn't be driven in temps below 40*. It goes without saying that temps at, around or below that are the rough definition of "cold", so let's not play that stupid game. Also, "go back to driving school bud"? You can be the best driver around, but a few panic situations due to the idiots on the roads these days with summer-only tires in cold temps isn't worth the risk of losing control or not being able to stop in time.

That aside, if you think that driving on 2 different tire compounds, regardless of the conditions in which you drive, is advisable then you may want to educate yourself on that subject matter, because that's a horrible idea.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by Reichler

Yes, he said cold, which Stock PZero's shouldn't be driven in temps below 40*. It goes without saying that temps at, around or below that are the rough definition of "cold", so let's not play that stupid game. Also, "go back to driving school bud"? You can be the best driver around, but a few panic situations due to the idiots on the roads these days with summer-only tires in cold temps isn't worth the risk of losing control or not being able to stop in time.

That aside, if you think that driving on 2 different tire compounds, regardless of the conditions in which you drive, is advisable then you may want to educate yourself on that subject matter, because that's a horrible idea.

Educate myself? Panic situations on the road. Ive driven on bald tires ...mismatched tire ..you name it. Its guys like you that will be first in line to buy a set of tires for each season....spring...summer.. fall..winter right. So save the lectures for somebody that cares. How many days have you stayed home from work because it was a little cold out and you had your summer tires on ? And really whats cold ? If winter weather is an issue I already posted winter tires on all 4 corners are a must. So dont tell me what I need to know based on your opinion.....Ive done ok so far....and did you know I drove in the snow on my stock P Zeros. And lived to tell about it....I know wtf was I thinking. Cold to you and I means something different to others.

[CamaroFred]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

Educate myself? Panic situations on the road. Ive driven on bald tires ...mismatched tire ..you name it. Its guys like you that will be first in line to buy a set of tires for each season....spring...summer.. fall..winter right. So save the lectures for somebody that cares. How many days have you stayed home from work because it was a little cold out and you had your summer tires on ? And really whats cold ? If winter weather is an issue I already posted winter tires on all 4 corners are a must. So dont tell me what I need to know based on your opinion.....Ive done ok so far....and did you know I drove in the snow on my stock P Zeros. And lived to tell about it....I know wtf was I thinking. Cold to you and I means something different to others.

HAHAHA! You only need three sets because spring and fall are the same.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by CamaroFred

HAHAHA! You only need three sets because spring and fall are the same.

Ok 3 sets ....ive seen winter in spring and summer in the fall.....so not exactly.

[JCunningham]

if your driving under 45deg you need to change all 4. all 4 are not to be driven on below 45.

[ZED SLED]

OP is in northern VA. No reason he can't tough it out with DWS on the rear for the few days in winter they get a cold snap, if that's all there was. However, I'd be more worried about the one or two monster blizzards they seem to get every season.

[Reichler]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

Educate myself? Panic situations on the road. Ive driven on bald tires ...mismatched tire ..you name it. Its guys like you that will be first in line to buy a set of tires for each season....spring...summer.. fall..winter right. So save the lectures for somebody that cares. How many days have you stayed home from work because it was a little cold out and you had your summer tires on ? And really whats cold ? If winter weather is an issue I already posted winter tires on all 4 corners are a must. So dont tell me what I need to know based on your opinion.....Ive done ok so far....and did you know I drove in the snow on my stock P Zeros. And lived to tell about it....I know wtf was I thinking. Cold to you and I means something different to others.

I work out of my house, have a company car, and the Camaro and GTO are summer toys.

Thanks for confirming that you're some super star driver though and just because you do OK means it's alright and advisable to drive on mismatched tires and/or summer-only tires in the cold. I've driven on summer-only tires before on an old car of mine in cold weather and light snow. Did I do OK, sure. Would it have been much better to grab a set of winter tires or all-seasons for those conditions; absolutely. It's not me I'm worried about, it's all the other idiot drivers out there that could possibly necessitate me making a maneuver that my tires can't handle in the conditions.

You can have whatever experience you want, but the bottom-line is driving on mismatched tire compounds is not advisable at all. If someone asks for my opinion, then I'm going to offer most advisable response, which is to get 4 new tires.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by Reichler

I work out of my house, have a company car, and the Camaro and GTO are summer toys.

Thanks for confirming that you're some super star driver though and just because you do OK means it's alright and advisable to drive on mismatched tires and/or summer-only tires in the cold. I've driven on summer-only tires before on an old car of mine in cold weather and light snow. Did I do OK, sure. Would it have been much better to grab a set of winter tires or all-seasons for those conditions; absolutely. It's not me I'm worried about, it's all the other idiot drivers out there that could possibly necessitate me making a maneuver that my tires can't handle in the conditions.

You can have whatever experience you want, but the bottom-line is driving on mismatched tire compounds is not advisable at all. If someone asks for my opinion, then I'm going to offer most advisable response, which is to get 4 new tires.

Cold roads are not that big if a deal if there isn't snow and ice......ive already said if there is snow and ice possible then snow tires all the way around. Maybe it's alot colder there then I think who knows. Since we are the only ones disagreeing the op likely has already went and bought what he wants anyway.

[MrChrisLS3]

To the OP. Yes, change the fronts. Starting from a stop in snow is a PIA, but it's when you try to steer or stop that all the really bad stuff happens.

Summer tires harden in cold weather. If we're talking about prolonged freezing temps, with or without snow, you are losing significant traction. At this point the wear on the tire is exponential. First, the loss of traction combined with the harder compound eats at the tire. Add to that the summer compound doesn't fully rebound when the temp goes up. The tire may crack, split, and will never be as soft as before.

[Rock-It Man]

No, you need the front tire traction too. It's called steering.

[JCunningham]

the pzeros can harden and crack if driven on in temps below 40deg.

[ZED SLED]

When did cracking below 20 start for the pzeros? It's well documented for the F1s but never saw anything about pzeros doing this when I had my SS.

[JCunningham]

when they started using p zeros.
from the warranty brochier can be found here http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....reModel=P+Zero
3. UHP Summer Tires
Rubber compounds formulated for ultra-high performance summer
tires can lose flexibility and may develop random surface cracks at
temperatures below 45° F. Therefore extra care should be used in
handling tires below this temperature. These compounds are optimized
for maximum dry and wet performance in warm conditions. Special tread
compounds in these tires will have decreased performance, such as
lateral and braking traction, at temperatures below 45° F or when driving
on snow or ice. Therefore, it is recommended to install winter tires in
these conditions.