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Old 12-24-2009, 12:18 PM   #15
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What do you expect from a Kia dealer?
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:26 PM   #16
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Well, I finally managed to get my first test drive of a Camaro last weekend. And boy was it an interesting experience.

I saw a yellow Camaro on a Kia dealer lot as I drive to and from work each day, so last Saturday, I figured I would check it out being as I haven't had the opportunity to drive one at a GM dealer.

I pull in, and first thing I notice is that it has aftermarket 20" wheels on it... not my favorite, but interesting. Then I notice that it has RS badges on it, so that's a plus. Has black stripes on it too. I park up, and instantly am greeted by a salesman. I walk over to the car, walking up to it from behind. The salesman says 'Yup - this is the R5 version' as he looks at the RS badge - (read Arrr Five)... I roll my eyes. Here we go, someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.

As I walk around the car, I see that it's a V6. As I get to the front, I notice that it doesn't have HIDs or Halos, and that the roof ditch moldings are black. And I thought it strange that someone would get rid of the OEM 20"s as they are nice wheels. So then I realize that they have put RS badges on the car and that is it. Really?

So he opens it up and I get in, to find that not only is it a V6, it's the LS... hence the reason for dressing it up with aftermarket rims, stripes and badges. The sticker price on the window - $34,995!!!!

I think what the heck and take it out for a test drive. It was nice and tight, but there was a clunking in the suspension in the front left, which I wasn't impressed with after only 7000 miles recorded on the ODO. And then the V6... well, it wasn't nearly as impressive as I was expecting. It was decent, but then I guess I am used to the initial 'seat of the pants' 4WD acceleration of my HEMI. My Jeep is no rocket and on paper the V6 Camaro beats it, but it didn't 'feel fast' with my butt dyno.

Apart from that, I couldn't live with the cloth on the dash, I hate that. So no LS for me!!!

Get back to the dealer... tell him the car is worth no more than $25,000 and that is being generous being as it is pre owned. He ums and ah's gets his manager and comes to talk to me. Being as I knew what I was talking about, he came clean, said it was a fleet car, they put the stripes, wheels and badges on it... but I could have it for $27,900. So he came down $7000 without flinching. However, if i was in the market for a V6, I could order my own brand new loaded 2LT for $1000 more!!!

I walked away saying thanks but no thanks, but came away with this...

I know I want an SS now, definitely. No questions.
I want the comforts too. So I want a 2SS.

Now I just have to wait to afford exactly what I want!!!

This is the car that I test drove - the 'internet' price is $30,985:

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...5&aff=national
i got my 2SS/RS for $1,000 more than their $34,995 asking price...and i ordered it too. should have it in a couple weeks. that's ridiculous!!
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:46 PM   #17
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I just emailed Cars.com for you too! Dealers like this should be banned from using sites like that to promote their fraud! It would be a good Idea for all you guys to go to that page, copy the URL, then click the contact us link at the bottom of the page. Post the link and tell them about the fraud! It couldn't hurt anyone but could save some poor sap from getting screwed.

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What fraud? Overcharging yes, I don't see fraud.
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:02 PM   #18
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Is it me or did they put the rear RS badge in the wrong place?
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:10 PM   #19
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What fraud? Overcharging yes, I don't see fraud.
I think adding RS badges and telling the customer it's an RS is fraud.
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:13 PM   #20
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I think adding RS badges and telling the customer it's an RS is fraud.
Well technically, the salesman didn't tell me it was an 'RS'... he told me it was an 'R5'!!!
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:16 PM   #21
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Well technically, the salesman didn't tell me it was an 'RS'... he told me it was an 'R5'!!!
Selling something that doesn't even exist is "fraud", right???

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Old 12-24-2009, 02:20 PM   #22
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get the 2S5
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:23 PM   #23
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get the 2S5
Maybe he should get the 255/R5? Or wait for the 2Z8?
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:52 PM   #24
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Is it me or did they put the rear RS badge in the wrong place?
It's supposed to be more to the right.,
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:22 PM   #25
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The internet VIN starts 2G1FB.... FB indicates 1LT Automatic, an LS Auto would be 2G1FAxx
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:44 PM   #26
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What fraud? Overcharging yes, I don't see fraud.
Anytime someone says something is one thing... and it is NOT... That is fraud!

Overcharging is capitalism. The buyer SHOULD know what he wants, like the original poster of this thread, BEFORE he buys it.

Fraud is simple. It is badged like a RS... it is NOT = Fraud. (and the badge IS in the wrong place! lol)
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:57 PM   #27
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Pretty crappy dealership, wrong on the RS, wrong on the LT, wrong on the price
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I saw this maro in one of the free auto sales magazines, when i saw v6 and 34k asking price just kept turning LOL
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