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Bryan2230 · 01-06-2010, 07:30 PM

I'm pretty sure it helps... When I was selling my 94 over the summer last year, one of the most popular questions asked by everyone that came to look at it was "have you driven it in the snow?"

2010 SSRS · 01-06-2010, 07:31 PM

I would definitely rather buy a car that has never seen rain or snow.

67MellowYellow · 01-06-2010, 07:36 PM

If they salt the roads in your area during the winter, it will make a difference I think if you can show no major corrosion to the under carriage. In a milder climate, driving the car in the rain and taking care of it will make little difference to resale value. I base this on the fact that I've bought used Corvettes before that were pristine, low mileage garage queens that never saw a drop of rain and it made very little difference to resale value. I say drive 'em if you can, why save it for someone else. These things aren't collectors cars and probably never will be. Only time will tell.

Steve Dallas · 01-06-2010, 07:45 PM

This guy would like to have a word with you about undercoating...

Mjollner · 01-06-2010, 07:59 PM

A lot of people say they were never driven in the snow, but I always check. Most modern car frames have little nooks and crannies all over the place that catch small pebbles as well as rock salt. It’s not a full proof method of course, but I’ve found rock salt in about half the cars people claim have never been driven in the winter. Having not been driven in the winter is nice and I would maybe pay a little more for such a car, but not thousands more or something like that. As for rain I really could care less. Here in Michigan at least the humidity during the summer will cause pretty much anything metal to “Sweat”. So unless your parking it in a temperature and humidity controlled environment it likely won’t make much difference.

OHIOSS · 01-06-2010, 08:38 PM

My wife drives a Yukon Denali XL that has always been garaged since it was new. The exterior of the truck is in excellent condition but the under side is shockingly corroded. When we had the brakes done last year I walked under the truck when it was on the lift and I could not believe how bad the corrosion was. I asked the mechanic if this was normal on all vehicles and he said yes if they were driven in the winter.

That was the basis of my decision to not drive my Camaro when it was raining, and never drive it in the winter unless the roads were bone dry. But even when the roads are bone dry in the winter you get that salt dust that looks like dirt dust. If there is no moisture for the salt dust to stick to I'm assuming it will not cause any corrosion....but then I wonder if that is really true?

Some good conversation on this post supporting both sides of the question. I can't say that my mind is made up yet whether never driving a car in rain or snow/winter will effect the value. I guess it's specific to the potential buyer more than anything else. True there is no way to prove the car was not driven in rain but there has to be some evidence as some of you have pointed out. I guess you just have to know what to look for if you are that motivated to find out for sure.

One thing for sure, I've determined from the conversation of this post that I will most definitely start checking out the under side of any vehicle I am interested in buying.

Russ

songsj · 01-07-2010, 05:21 AM

I would much rather buy a used car that has been driven sensibly and well taken care of than a spotless car that has had the shit kicked out of it. Most [not all] women drive these high performance cars easier than guys so a middle aged female driver is usually a plus to me.

HDDAN · 01-07-2010, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by songsj

I would much rather buy a used car that has been driven sensibly and well taken care of than a spotless car that has had the shit kicked out of it. Most [not all] women drive these high performance cars easier than guys so a middle aged female driver is usually a plus to me.

Amen to you brother. I will not buy a used car from anyone under thirty. I also would rather have a used car that was driven by a woman. I was once a young man and I remember the abuse that I piled onto my vehicles. full throttle power shifts at the drag strip etc. As far as "never driven in snow or rain" goes, how would you prove it? My winter machine is a used Buick. I bought a Buick because they are old people's cars and older people tend to take better care of their vehicles and generally get them serviced at the dealership.

Scrappy Doo · 01-07-2010, 07:21 AM

I guess it depend on how long that you are going to keep the car. If you are only keeping it 3 years or so, drive it. Just wash it once a week and wax 3 times a year and you will be fine.

If you plan on keeping it a long time, then don't drive it in the winter. Period.

The rain won't affect it much in the summer time.

bluman · 01-07-2010, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

how does one prove it?

01pewterz28 · 01-07-2010, 08:31 AM

It depends on when you plan to sell it within the next 1-3 years NO. Plus how much are you looking for it IMHO I mean no snow or rain if all fine but if you plan to ask close to MSRP IMHO I would rather just go buy a new one rather that a 2-3 year old car with 1500 miles that is 1-2k under MSRP. If you plan to keep it say 10-15 years or unless GM ends production of the Camaro then it will be worth something.

Look at 4th Gen Camaros right now cars with very low miles are not brining in the $$$ people expected. IMHO drive the car and enjoy it.

Sean

ODB720 · 01-07-2010, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010 SSRS

I would definitely rather buy a car that has never seen rain or snow.

I HAVE A 2000 CHEVY SILVERADO WITH A 383 , AND 16,000 MLS. THAT HAS NEVER SEEN A DAY OF RAIN , AND THE UNDER CARRIAGE LOOKS LIKE THE DAY I BOUGHT IT I TEND TO KEEP MY VEHICLES, SO MY CAMARO WILL NEVER SEE A DAY OF RAIN ...

TOO EACH HIS OWN.

DangerZL1 · 01-07-2010, 09:41 AM

One of the easiest ways to tell if the car is driven in the rain/snow is to look for windshield wiper streaks/scratches on the glass. Of course, windshields can be replaced. It seems to be more of a selling point on an older car, or one that was owned in Northern areas where salt is used on the roads during the winter.

Tal · 01-07-2010, 05:38 PM

Only the actual condition matters, well that and how good of a salesman you are. And what in the world is a truck that has to avoid the rain good for, unless it's something silly like an SSR?

01-06-2010, 07:30 PM	#15
Bryan2230 Drives: 2014 Red Hot Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Saxonburg, PA Posts: 515	I'm pretty sure it helps... When I was selling my 94 over the summer last year, one of the most popular questions asked by everyone that came to look at it was "have you driven it in the snow?" __________________ Thank You, Bryan Former owner of a 2010 Victory Red 2LT/RS Delivered: September 11, 2009 Current owner of a 2014 Red Hot 2SS/RS Delivered: October 24, 2013

01-06-2010, 07:45 PM	#18
Steve Dallas Commits weekly crime Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Camano Island, WA Posts: 9,513 View My Garage	This guy would like to have a word with you about undercoating... __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LT - Blue Barchetta IV I fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar. Tires spitting gravel I commit my weekly crime.

01-07-2010, 08:31 AM	#25
01pewterz28 #TeamBeckyD Drives: 2017 HBM 2SS Convertible A8 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Apopka, FL Posts: 10,494 View My Garage	It depends on when you plan to sell it within the next 1-3 years NO. Plus how much are you looking for it IMHO I mean no snow or rain if all fine but if you plan to ask close to MSRP IMHO I would rather just go buy a new one rather that a 2-3 year old car with 1500 miles that is 1-2k under MSRP. If you plan to keep it say 10-15 years or unless GM ends production of the Camaro then it will be worth something. Look at 4th Gen Camaros right now cars with very low miles are not brining in the $$$ people expected. IMHO drive the car and enjoy it. Sean __________________ #TeamBeckyD FIFTY HBM 2SS VERT

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67MellowYellow Drives: 2010 SS/RS ABM M6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East of Seattle Posts: 85	If they salt the roads in your area during the winter, it will make a difference I think if you can show no major corrosion to the under carriage. In a milder climate, driving the car in the rain and taking care of it will make little difference to resale value. I base this on the fact that I've bought used Corvettes before that were pristine, low mileage garage queens that never saw a drop of rain and it made very little difference to resale value. I say drive 'em if you can, why save it for someone else. These things aren't collectors cars and probably never will be. Only time will tell.

01-06-2010, 07:59 PM	#19
Mjollner Drives: NA Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 4	A lot of people say they were never driven in the snow, but I always check. Most modern car frames have little nooks and crannies all over the place that catch small pebbles as well as rock salt. It’s not a full proof method of course, but I’ve found rock salt in about half the cars people claim have never been driven in the winter. Having not been driven in the winter is nice and I would maybe pay a little more for such a car, but not thousands more or something like that. As for rain I really could care less. Here in Michigan at least the humidity during the summer will cause pretty much anything metal to “Sweat”. So unless your parking it in a temperature and humidity controlled environment it likely won’t make much difference.

01-06-2010, 08:38 PM	#20
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	My wife drives a Yukon Denali XL that has always been garaged since it was new. The exterior of the truck is in excellent condition but the under side is shockingly corroded. When we had the brakes done last year I walked under the truck when it was on the lift and I could not believe how bad the corrosion was. I asked the mechanic if this was normal on all vehicles and he said yes if they were driven in the winter. That was the basis of my decision to not drive my Camaro when it was raining, and never drive it in the winter unless the roads were bone dry. But even when the roads are bone dry in the winter you get that salt dust that looks like dirt dust. If there is no moisture for the salt dust to stick to I'm assuming it will not cause any corrosion....but then I wonder if that is really true? Some good conversation on this post supporting both sides of the question. I can't say that my mind is made up yet whether never driving a car in rain or snow/winter will effect the value. I guess it's specific to the potential buyer more than anything else. True there is no way to prove the car was not driven in rain but there has to be some evidence as some of you have pointed out. I guess you just have to know what to look for if you are that motivated to find out for sure. One thing for sure, I've determined from the conversation of this post that I will most definitely start checking out the under side of any vehicle I am interested in buying. Russ

01-07-2010, 05:21 AM	#21
songsj Drives: 2015 2SS/RS Summit White Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MPLS Posts: 798	I would much rather buy a used car that has been driven sensibly and well taken care of than a spotless car that has had the shit kicked out of it. Most [not all] women drive these high performance cars easier than guys so a middle aged female driver is usually a plus to me.

01-07-2010, 07:21 AM	#23
Scrappy Doo Drives: Callaway Rogue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: W8n 4 Snow, Minnesota Posts: 4,731	I guess it depend on how long that you are going to keep the car. If you are only keeping it 3 years or so, drive it. Just wash it once a week and wax 3 times a year and you will be fine. If you plan on keeping it a long time, then don't drive it in the winter. Period. The rain won't affect it much in the summer time.

01-07-2010, 09:41 AM	#27
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,936	One of the easiest ways to tell if the car is driven in the rain/snow is to look for windshield wiper streaks/scratches on the glass. Of course, windshields can be replaced. It seems to be more of a selling point on an older car, or one that was owned in Northern areas where salt is used on the roads during the winter.

01-07-2010, 05:38 PM	#28
Tal Drives: Old Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OK Posts: 726	Only the actual condition matters, well that and how good of a salesman you are. And what in the world is a truck that has to avoid the rain good for, unless it's something silly like an SSR?