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headpunter · 09-30-2008, 02:20 PM

but with thier lower MPG and lesser performance as well as the deficit they must overcome to sell 100k it isnt practical for them to think they'll sell that many.

diddiyo · 09-30-2008, 02:45 PM

I saw the Challenger SRT8 for the first time in Vegas a few days ago. My friends were like "Oh look isn't that a Camaro?" and I was like "omg omg omg where?", turned out it was a Challenger :( I didn't like it as much as in the pictures tbh.

Speedy1975 · 09-30-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shnomac77

Did dodge make a good care in the 80's or 90's....

Good point

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Originally Posted by diarmadhi

BUT with the economy as it is chysler is just happy to have a car that people are willing to pay for. They will continue to watch sales numbers and adjust production accordingly. Just like GM they are not going to repeat mistakes.. they want to sell cars, not create a niche market or create nostalgia.

The guy I talked to did mention the economy. He indicated that these types of cars are going to be harder to sell with the way the market is.

SS4EVER · 09-30-2008, 03:46 PM

The Camaro was created to compete with the Mustang in 1967. Thus the beginning of the "pony car" wars. Although of course any classic Mustang can be considered both a "pony car" and a "muscle car" but the Challenger was always considered more or a "muscle car".

Although I think the 5th Gen Camaro and born again Challenger will be more rivals in terms of what they offer compared to the Mustang.

camaro5 · 09-30-2008, 03:51 PM

The Challenger is definitely direct competition. They weren't as popular (sales wise) in the early 70's as the Mustang and F body cars.

Let's face it, all these cars are cool, I want one of each. But, financially, I'll start with a Corvette or Camaro SS and go from there.

Tal · 09-30-2008, 03:53 PM

I see the Challenger and even the Nissan Z as relatively direct competition. I suppose volume and history make the Mustang a bit more of 'the direct competitor' but all of the cars will be competing for similiar buyers.

Caliman93230 · 09-30-2008, 04:07 PM

two very important factors play in this competition A performance B price, the challenger wins on performance over the mustang but completely fails on price. the camaro has to be competitive in price with the mustang and competitive in performance with the challenger.
thus the camaro will have to be performace bargain if it wishes to dominate the muscle car market. however GM is going to push the V6 camaro as their top seller where it will have really no competition performance wise and if can manage to start at 22k it will dominate this market for sure.

AZCamaroFan · 09-30-2008, 04:11 PM

I think the challenger will flop.

*The_Blur* · 09-30-2008, 04:17 PM

We flipped a coin. It landed on heads, and we established that heads (Ford) would be the primary enemy.

Obviously, the Challenger gets tails because its fat butt weights too much to get heads.

headpunter · 09-30-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

We flipped a coin. It landed on heads, and we established that heads (Ford) would be the primary enemy.

Obviously, the Challenger gets tails because its fat butt weights too much to get heads.

is this sig worthy? i think so

ShnOmac · 09-30-2008, 04:32 PM

I agree!

lalometalik · 09-30-2008, 04:38 PM

hahaha ^^^

new sig lookin good

camaro5 · 09-30-2008, 04:52 PM

fbird777 · 09-30-2008, 04:56 PM

If the Camaro SS comes over 35k fully loaded alot of people will consider buying a used C6 Corvette and that will definatley hurt Camaro sales.

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headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,747 View My Garage	but with thier lower MPG and lesser performance as well as the deficit they must overcome to sell 100k it isnt practical for them to think they'll sell that many. __________________ Stop Whinging

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SS4EVER Camaro Convert... Drives: 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Metro Detroit, Mi Posts: 595 View My Garage	The Camaro was created to compete with the Mustang in 1967. Thus the beginning of the "pony car" wars. Although of course any classic Mustang can be considered both a "pony car" and a "muscle car" but the Challenger was always considered more or a "muscle car". Although I think the 5th Gen Camaro and born again Challenger will be more rivals in terms of what they offer compared to the Mustang. __________________ 4 life! Currently Driving: 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged

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camaro5 Drives: X-15 Velocipede Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 4,637	The Challenger is definitely direct competition. They weren't as popular (sales wise) in the early 70's as the Mustang and F body cars. Let's face it, all these cars are cool, I want one of each. But, financially, I'll start with a Corvette or Camaro SS and go from there. __________________ Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge General Motors ASEP, A.S. Automotive Technology, Telecommunications Specialist, CISCO Network Engineer STANDARD DISCLAIMER camaro5 is furnishing this information "as is". camaro5 does not provide any warranty of the information whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose or any warranty that the contents of the information will be error-free. Last edited by camaro5; 09-30-2008 at 04:49 PM.

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diddiyo Drives: . Join Date: May 2008 Location: . Posts: 3,053	I saw the Challenger SRT8 for the first time in Vegas a few days ago. My friends were like "Oh look isn't that a Camaro?" and I was like "omg omg omg where?", turned out it was a Challenger :( I didn't like it as much as in the pictures tbh.

09-30-2008, 03:53 PM	#20
Tal Drives: Old Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OK Posts: 726	I see the Challenger and even the Nissan Z as relatively direct competition. I suppose volume and history make the Mustang a bit more of 'the direct competitor' but all of the cars will be competing for similiar buyers.

09-30-2008, 04:07 PM	#21
Caliman93230 Drives: LS3S/C Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: CALI Posts: 1,344	two very important factors play in this competition A performance B price, the challenger wins on performance over the mustang but completely fails on price. the camaro has to be competitive in price with the mustang and competitive in performance with the challenger. thus the camaro will have to be performace bargain if it wishes to dominate the muscle car market. however GM is going to push the V6 camaro as their top seller where it will have really no competition performance wise and if can manage to start at 22k it will dominate this market for sure.

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AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,461	I think the challenger will flop.

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ShnOmac Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 13,313	I agree!

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fbird777 SOM WS6 Drives: 2002 SOM Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kinston, NC Posts: 266	If the Camaro SS comes over 35k fully loaded alot of people will consider buying a used C6 Corvette and that will definatley hurt Camaro sales.

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