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Edge.128 · 03-31-2010, 04:24 PM

you can find used SS cars for under $40,000 with very little kms on them. and they will have full warranty so is this really an option anymore? I don't think so just stick to buying in Canada.

Hylton · 03-31-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Edge.128

you can find used SS cars for under $40,000 with very little kms on them. and they will have full warranty so is this really an option anymore? I don't think so just stick to buying in Canada.

2SS? Heck I can buy a new SS for 37K.

Matster · 03-31-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bourgui

Do you have the names of some of those companies? I may not be using the proper google-fu but I'm not finding much...

Thanks!

Most refer to themselves as Car Brokers, you tell them what you want and they go out and get you the best deal. I got rid of what ever info I had when I put my deposit down on the Camaro back in 08.

CTV or Global in TO did a segment on them not that long ago, either CTV Pat Foren "on your side" or Globals "Consumer Alert". You may want to check their websites for the article and or a link.

RedJewel2SS · 03-31-2010, 05:29 PM

what are you talking aboot, ehh???

Bourgui · 03-31-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Matster

Most refer to themselves as Car Brokers, you tell them what you want and they go out and get you the best deal. I got rid of what ever info I had when I put my deposit down on the Camaro back in 08.

CTV or Global in TO did a segment on them not that long ago, either CTV Pat Foren "on your side" or Globals "Consumer Alert". You may want to check their websites for the article and or a link.

Thanks for the info.

I'm pretty sure I will buy from Canada - I want a new Camaro

But it never hurts to look, and I might want to go that route for other cars!

Edge.128 · 03-31-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hylton

2SS? Heck I can buy a new SS for 37K.

where?? when you price them out at a dealer they are $47,000 with taxes for a 2SS brand new.

Rickerbucks · 03-31-2010, 08:52 PM

I just bought a yellow 2SS RS with gfx M6 and 5,000 miles for $31,049 + $1,250 for shipping.

That works out to about $33,500 CDN. MSRP for the car here is about $45k CDN MSRP in the US was $38,700 USD

Warranty or not....I don't care. If need be....I just drive to Bellingham for any "expensive" warranty work.

i'm getting a bunch off mods done as well so again..... warranty is not an deal breaker for me.

Thrillz · 03-31-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickerbucks

I just bought a yellow 2SS RS with gfx M6 and 5,000 miles for $31,049 + $1,250 for shipping.

That works out to about $33,500 CDN. MSRP for the car here is about $45k CDN MSRP in the US was $38,700 USD

Warranty or not....I don't care. If need be....I just drive to Bellingham for any "expensive" warranty work.

i'm getting a bunch off mods done as well so again..... warranty is not an deal breaker for me.

Nicely done

Best deal ive heard of up here for a 2SS by far. Mind i ask if you used a broker or just do the paperwork yourself.

Maddog78 · 03-31-2010, 11:45 PM

I bought a Porsche 911 in the States 2 years ago and imported it myself.
Saved about $20K. I live right on the border so it was just a bit of paper work and a relatively easy process overall.
It will be a long time before I buy another car in Canada unless the pricing changes.

Canadian_Stig · 03-31-2010, 11:50 PM

Do the work yourself it's much cheaper. If you don't have the time, car brokers will charge about $1000 on the vehicle, higher depending on the cost and rarity of the vehicle. Also, the more work they have to do, like locating, transporting, etc, the more it will cost.

It's so unfortunate, even after reading this thread through there is so much mis-information out there. GM Canada does honor the US warrenty, after the car is 6 months old. It doesn't matter if those 6 months are spent in Canada or the US, once the 6 months is up the warrenty can be registered with GM Canada. If this is a big deal to you, then while searching for your perfect Camaro ask the seller when the vehicle was purchased, that will tell you how long you have to wait before you can register the warrenty. If the car is already 6 months old, then no waiting register the warrenty as soon as you import it. If it's 3 months old, import it and after 3 months register the warrenty. For $8k - $10k savings, you can do a lot of warrenty work and still come out ahead and the chances are that won't happen while your waiting.

Ronn, there is a lot of incorrect information in your post. When buying a used vehicle in the US (which is the only option because GM says so), you don't pay any US tax on the purchase. You do pay GST & a $206 (after tax) RIV fee at the boarder when you import but you do not pay any customs charges (duty) for any vehicle built in North America (Canada, US & Mexico). TThe Camaro is built in Oshawa, hence no duty. Depending on your province of residence when you register the vehicle in your provice you will pay provincial sales tax, just like any new or used vehicle purchased in Canada. Therefore, besides the $206 RIV fee, you will pay the exact same taxes on a "used" (pre-owned) Camaro in the US that you pay for a "New" Camaro in Canada. The difference is you pay a lot less CDN taxes on a pre-owned $30k Camaro then you do on a $45k new Camaro. That more then makes up for the $206 RIV (Registered Import Vehicles of Canada) fee.

If you want NEW off the lot then buy from a Canadian dealer. If you don't mind buying used (less then 1 year old) then it only makes sense to purchase it in the US. If I had 50 grand lying around last year when the Camaro was first out I would have purchased new, unfortunately, I didn't. Now, when I round up the funds to pay $50k for a Camaro, I'll buy used in the US and put the $10k savings in a nice supercharger and suspension package purchased in the US and only pay tax on the used price of the Camaro, so in actual fact it'll be more like a $15 000 savings.

For those regulars who feel butt hurt because of the amount they paid in Canada, don't! You've been driving your Camaro for quite sometime while the rest of us are still just dreaming about one day having one in our driveway too!

Ronn · 04-01-2010, 12:55 AM

Ronn, there is a lot of incorrect information in your post. When buying a used vehicle in the US (which is the only option because GM says so), you don't pay any US tax on the purchase. You do pay GST & a $206 (after tax) RIV fee at the boarder when you import but you do not pay any customs charges (duty) for any vehicle built in North America (Canada, US & Mexico). TThe Camaro is built in Oshawa, hence no duty. Depending on your province of residence when you register the vehicle in your provice you will pay provincial sales tax, just like any new or used vehicle purchased in Canada. Therefore, besides the $206 RIV fee, you will pay the exact same taxes on a "used" (pre-owned) Camaro in the US that you pay for a "New" Camaro in Canada. The difference is you pay a lot less CDN taxes on a pre-owned $30k Camaro then you do on a $45k new Camaro. That more then makes up for the $206 RIV (Registered Import Vehicles of Canada) fee.

- I stand corrected, I've only bought an ATV in the states so I was unsure about the process for cars. The info that I posted was from a car salesman who I went to because he buys vehicles in the states. He did seem a little shady but it was the only information I had and was trying to help. Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

OUR72GTO · 04-01-2010, 01:11 AM

There are so many threads on this........

03-31-2010, 05:29 PM	#18
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Ronn Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northern Ontario Posts: 1,181	Ronn, there is a lot of incorrect information in your post. When buying a used vehicle in the US (which is the only option because GM says so), you don't pay any US tax on the purchase. You do pay GST & a $206 (after tax) RIV fee at the boarder when you import but you do not pay any customs charges (duty) for any vehicle built in North America (Canada, US & Mexico). TThe Camaro is built in Oshawa, hence no duty. Depending on your province of residence when you register the vehicle in your provice you will pay provincial sales tax, just like any new or used vehicle purchased in Canada. Therefore, besides the $206 RIV fee, you will pay the exact same taxes on a "used" (pre-owned) Camaro in the US that you pay for a "New" Camaro in Canada. The difference is you pay a lot less CDN taxes on a pre-owned $30k Camaro then you do on a $45k new Camaro. That more then makes up for the $206 RIV (Registered Import Vehicles of Canada) fee. - I stand corrected, I've only bought an ATV in the states so I was unsure about the process for cars. The info that I posted was from a car salesman who I went to because he buys vehicles in the states. He did seem a little shady but it was the only information I had and was trying to help. Thanks for the info, much appreciated. __________________ 1SS / RS / M6 / IOM / Black rally stripes / Polished wheels It's a high school prom, it's a Springsteen song, it's a ride in a Chevrolet...

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03-31-2010, 04:24 PM	#15
Edge.128 Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,911	you can find used SS cars for under $40,000 with very little kms on them. and they will have full warranty so is this really an option anymore? I don't think so just stick to buying in Canada.

03-31-2010, 08:52 PM	#21
Rickerbucks HP addict Drives: 2 SS RS, Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Surrey BC Canada Posts: 889	I just bought a yellow 2SS RS with gfx M6 and 5,000 miles for $31,049 + $1,250 for shipping. That works out to about $33,500 CDN. MSRP for the car here is about $45k CDN MSRP in the US was $38,700 USD Warranty or not....I don't care. If need be....I just drive to Bellingham for any "expensive" warranty work. i'm getting a bunch off mods done as well so again..... warranty is not an deal breaker for me.

03-31-2010, 11:45 PM	#23
Maddog78 Drives: 1969 Z28 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: BC Posts: 378	I bought a Porsche 911 in the States 2 years ago and imported it myself. Saved about $20K. I live right on the border so it was just a bit of paper work and a relatively easy process overall. It will be a long time before I buy another car in Canada unless the pricing changes.

03-31-2010, 11:50 PM	#24
Canadian_Stig Drives: Highlander Hybrid, Durango, TurboPT Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ajax, ON Posts: 28	Do the work yourself it's much cheaper. If you don't have the time, car brokers will charge about $1000 on the vehicle, higher depending on the cost and rarity of the vehicle. Also, the more work they have to do, like locating, transporting, etc, the more it will cost. It's so unfortunate, even after reading this thread through there is so much mis-information out there. GM Canada does honor the US warrenty, after the car is 6 months old. It doesn't matter if those 6 months are spent in Canada or the US, once the 6 months is up the warrenty can be registered with GM Canada. If this is a big deal to you, then while searching for your perfect Camaro ask the seller when the vehicle was purchased, that will tell you how long you have to wait before you can register the warrenty. If the car is already 6 months old, then no waiting register the warrenty as soon as you import it. If it's 3 months old, import it and after 3 months register the warrenty. For $8k - $10k savings, you can do a lot of warrenty work and still come out ahead and the chances are that won't happen while your waiting. Ronn, there is a lot of incorrect information in your post. When buying a used vehicle in the US (which is the only option because GM says so), you don't pay any US tax on the purchase. You do pay GST & a $206 (after tax) RIV fee at the boarder when you import but you do not pay any customs charges (duty) for any vehicle built in North America (Canada, US & Mexico). TThe Camaro is built in Oshawa, hence no duty. Depending on your province of residence when you register the vehicle in your provice you will pay provincial sales tax, just like any new or used vehicle purchased in Canada. Therefore, besides the $206 RIV fee, you will pay the exact same taxes on a "used" (pre-owned) Camaro in the US that you pay for a "New" Camaro in Canada. The difference is you pay a lot less CDN taxes on a pre-owned $30k Camaro then you do on a $45k new Camaro. That more then makes up for the $206 RIV (Registered Import Vehicles of Canada) fee. If you want NEW off the lot then buy from a Canadian dealer. If you don't mind buying used (less then 1 year old) then it only makes sense to purchase it in the US. If I had 50 grand lying around last year when the Camaro was first out I would have purchased new, unfortunately, I didn't. Now, when I round up the funds to pay $50k for a Camaro, I'll buy used in the US and put the $10k savings in a nice supercharger and suspension package purchased in the US and only pay tax on the used price of the Camaro, so in actual fact it'll be more like a $15 000 savings. For those regulars who feel butt hurt because of the amount they paid in Canada, don't! You've been driving your Camaro for quite sometime while the rest of us are still just dreaming about one day having one in our driveway too!