Kicker 12's or Kenwood 12's

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by Topdown

if your not married to either kicker or kenwood subs, there are better options out there...

JBL makes a real nice sub these days if you want to stay with a more well known brand, and I would rank them higher than either the Kicker or Kenwood... but there are tons and tons of options out there. better subs for the same or less money.

heck, go to partsexpress.com and buy a Dayton HO 12 or even an HF 12 instead.

RMS/Peak numbers really dont mean as much as most people think they mean. you can run 1000 watt amp to a 300w sub as long as you set your gains appropriately you will be fine. of course you can also run 100w to a 1200w sub perfectly fine as well... with gains set correctly.

RMS and impedance are the two important things to match up. Like Topdown has stated, if the gains are set properly, power ratings are of little use. Peak power ratings should be banned, as well as.....

Originally Posted by seddon

Don't worry about peak power worry about rms and the db rating. I would go with a cleaner setup. Since you already have the amp make the amp work with a good quality sub. I would go with JL subs

Sensitivity in subwoofers is a joke, at least in car. Looking at what a sub does db/watt is useless info, and like peak power ratings, needs to be banned.

In car, in enclosure, almost everything on paper goes out the window. Power compression and impedance rise, amongst other things, completely changes what is going on inside the enclosure.

Now, you building for home, with unlimited space? Then start looking at sensitivity. While building for car though, it's meaningless.

[atlang3lo]

mrray13 so what should i go with then?

[Camaro68]

Originally Posted by v6sonoma

Both would be fine. Pick the cheaper.

[Racer-X]

I think before any good reccomendation could be made we would need to know the true RMS rating of you amp.

There are tons of brands of subs we all could recommend... from cheap to expensive, mediocre performance to truly superb.

your choice will have to come down to what are you willing to spend and what kind of performance are you looking for.

[atlang3lo]

@IAS i have a Kenwood KAC-8104D 1000 watt amp. i dont wanna spend 600 for everything i've spent alot of money already n my wife is crying about me spending more money on the car.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by atlang3lo

@IAS i have a Kenwood KAC-8104D 1000 watt amp. i dont wanna spend 600 for everything i've spent alot of money already n my wife is crying about me spending more money on the car.

Okay, your amp is 500wrms @ 2ohm. Good to know. It's very useable, and being CEA-2006 compliant, probably really close to that power.

So, now you need to decide on either a single sub setup, with either a single 2ohm coil, or a dvc sub with either 1 ohm or 4 ohm coils, or a dual sub setup with either single 4 or dual 2 ohm coils. This way, you'll match impedance and wring every bit of perfromance out of your amp.

Now it's on to budget. You stated $600 was too much, correct? For sub(s) and enclosure? A pair of these D-Cons in S4 would run $230 plus shipping, then contact ******** and grab a prefab! Or This single 12" in d4 would run you $189 plus shipping and eat that amp all day! Then throw in your ******** prefab, you'll be under $600 all day, and rocking out!!


BTW, if you go to that store , SSA, and buy, pm denim ahead of time and let him know I sent ya, the pricing might be even better!!

Lastly, those are options only, and what I would do to use the amp you already have. Look for similar products from your favorite namebrand, and you'll be set. Remember, a single sub will have to be able to take 500wrms, and two subs will have to be able to take 250wrms each.

Hope that helps.