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WHIPPLECHARGED · 07-01-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by christianmotox

is there some sort of software or device that can tell you if you are running rich?

Yeah any automotive scan tool that can read live data from the PCM. My car reads -3% long term fuel trim. I guess the best way to explain would be that the computer is trying to take fuel away from the engine 3% of the time on average. Which in my opinion is not enough to worry about.

Cyber Gray · 07-01-2010, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Hrmmm...well I think it is fairly known that removing the stock mufflers and installing something else resorts in lots of soot building up on the tips. I just have a magnaflow exhaust, and after one drive or two my tips look very dirty...and so I clean the dang things all the time.

But thats all the info I can offer....and I'm pretty sure that helps zero percent lol.

I sure hope its not a real issue!

Me too, but MF can be cleaned easily. My main complain is with vibration. I have a Razzi body kit and I pulled the exhaust out to fill the rear bumper holes but MAN it started to melt the edges.

So I went to the exhaust welding shop something like 4 times and each time they tighten the exhaust in the centre of the hole, it moves up making my camaro butt shake.

Im not sure how long my bumper will last with the heat and vibrations

Blade · 07-01-2010, 06:16 AM

I keep reading the same info from you guys, which makes me feel fine. But then someone like the 2 guys I mentioned in the OP will say something and get me worried again.

Thanks guys for the responses

scrming · 07-01-2010, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade

I keep reading the same info from you guys, which makes me feel fine. But then someone like the 2 guys I mentioned in the OP will say something and get me worried again.

Thanks guys for the responses

I wouldn't sweat it... with this car you are actually better off being on the rich side vs the lean side... Also you could pull a couple spark plugs out and see what they look like...

usa1camaro1969 · 07-01-2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by scrming

I wouldn't sweat it... with this car you are actually better off being on the rich side vs the lean side... Also you could pull a couple spark plugs out and see what they look like...

Very much right. Rich is safe, lean will give you a little more power but with us at such a high compression on pump gas it is designed to keep us in the safe range.

ROD1 · 07-01-2010, 09:36 AM

Here is Mrray's arh dyno so ide say this should tell ya. EDIT: Never mind I forgot u were tuned , sy.

WHIPPLECHARGED · 07-01-2010, 10:53 AM

Running lean causes higher engine temps where as running rich will help cool the combustion camber temps down. so I would rather run rich.

usa1camaro1969 · 07-01-2010, 06:03 PM

Lean causes detonation and detonation causes damage.

RedJewel2SS · 07-01-2010, 06:09 PM

have you experienced any smoke clouds when you take off?

i had this same issue after installing my longtubes, but i was also experiencing giant smoke clouds sometimes. turned out to be oil blow by, so i got a catch can and no more smoke clouds and no more filthy tips!

Blade · 07-01-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RedJewel2SS

have you experienced any smoke clouds when you take off?

i had this same issue after installing my longtubes, but i was also experiencing giant smoke clouds sometimes. turned out to be oil blow by, so i got a catch can and no more smoke clouds and no more filthy tips!

Nope........def haven't seen smoke clouds

Thank god for that.

ROD1 · 07-01-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedJewel2SS

have you experienced any smoke clouds when you take off?

i had this same issue after installing my longtubes, but i was also experiencing giant smoke clouds sometimes. turned out to be oil blow by, so i got a catch can and no more smoke clouds and no more filthy tips!

Blow by? U mean from your PCV?

RedJewel2SS · 07-02-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ROD1

Blow by? U mean from your PCV?

yep

2010SLVRBULIT · 07-02-2010, 09:19 AM

looks like a symptom of lead-foot syndrome.

RickRay · 07-02-2010, 09:30 AM

Why can't we find someone(Engineer) that builds these motors to answer us...I'm sure there must be someone from the St. Catherine Plant...OOPS I think our engines V6 are built in the States.

07-01-2010, 06:16 AM	#17
Blade Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS BVM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 4,689 View My Garage	I keep reading the same info from you guys, which makes me feel fine. But then someone like the 2 guys I mentioned in the OP will say something and get me worried again. Thanks guys for the responses __________________ Formerly owner of: 2012 2SS/RS Build Thread - Totaled by red light runner 2010 LT/RS Build Thread - Traded in for 2012 2SS 2007 Acura TSX 1992 Oldsmobile Achieva V6 1992 Mercury Sable

07-01-2010, 09:36 AM	#20
ROD1 Retired Drives: 2010 Camaro RS V6 #1301 DOB 3/23/09 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ithaca NY Posts: 2,563	Here is Mrray's arh dyno so ide say this should tell ya. EDIT: Never mind I forgot u were tuned , sy. Attached Images

07-01-2010, 10:53 AM	#21
WHIPPLECHARGED Drives: 2011 1SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vegas Posts: 736	Running lean causes higher engine temps where as running rich will help cool the combustion camber temps down. so I would rather run rich. __________________

07-01-2010, 06:09 PM	#23
RedJewel2SS 12.23s@113mph Drives: 2SS/RS, A6, just a few bolt ons Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,197	have you experienced any smoke clouds when you take off? i had this same issue after installing my longtubes, but i was also experiencing giant smoke clouds sometimes. turned out to be oil blow by, so i got a catch can and no more smoke clouds and no more filthy tips! __________________ RIP Cammie 7/15/2009 - 4/1/2011

07-02-2010, 09:30 AM	#28
RickRay INJACC Drives: 2010 CGM 2LT/RS AUTO Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal (South Shore)Quebec, Canada Posts: 6,518 View My Garage	Why can't we find someone(Engineer) that builds these motors to answer us...I'm sure there must be someone from the St. Catherine Plant...OOPS I think our engines V6 are built in the States. __________________ *Member of 'Club Elite' #70* 2LT/RS Auto / Solo HFC / Solo Mach X-LLT J-Pipe / JBA Headers Shorty CAI - Cold Air Inductions / VMAX TB / Trifecta Tune Hotchkis Max Strut Brace / Blade Dovetail Spoiler / Elite Catch Can ACS T3 Hood Ports / T2 Bumper Ports / T2 Splitter / ACS T1 Led Light Kit ACS Rockers / ACS Composite Hood Liner / ACS Upper Rear Quarter Ports ACS Front Wheel Mud Flaps / ACS Rear Wheel Mud Flaps / Vitesse Throttle Controller Pedders Drop Suspension / BMR Lower Control Arms / Style 41 ZL1 Wheels / Oracle Afterburners / Oracle Concept SMD Side markers Complete SS Brembo Brakes Set

07-01-2010, 06:03 PM	#22
usa1camaro1969 Back on the dino-juice Drives: '10 LS + a few more Join Date: May 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,641	Lean causes detonation and detonation causes damage.

07-02-2010, 09:19 AM	#27
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,525 View My Garage	looks like a symptom of lead-foot syndrome.

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