They should put at least a 3.8 L v6 on the new Camaro

[KaiserSoze]

I believe the OP was meaning just bore/stroke the current 3.6 out to 3.8 liters. Not update the old 3.8. If the current block isn't at it's cylinder wall thickness limit and/or stroke limit already, a 3.8 version would at the very least create more torque down low.

[zen]

Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

I believe the OP was meaning just bore/stroke the current 3.6 out to 3.8 liters. Not update the old 3.8. If the current block isn't at it's cylinder wall thickness limit and/or stroke limit already, a 3.8 version would at the very least create more torque down low.

I believe that the 3.8 was iron and the 3.6 is al with iron sleeves. So I don't think you would be able to bore it out. It needs the sleeves because of the higher compression of the DI engine. A little longer stroke would help with the torque. Boring it out would help with the HP but not with the torque.

[Frank in MD]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

The 3.8L V6 just went out of production last year and it only made 200 HP in the 1st gen. LaCrosse and 197 HP in the Lucerne. The 3.6L SIDI is vastly superior.

Plus the engine is used in more than just Camaro. No need for a larger V6, if you want more power go for the V8.

[Lazerbrainz2k3]

...Or (preferably) a turbocharged V6.

[KaiserSoze]

Originally Posted by zen

I believe that the 3.8 was iron and the 3.6 is al with iron sleeves. So I don't think you would be able to bore it out. It needs the sleeves because of the higher compression of the DI engine. A little longer stroke would help with the torque. Boring it out would help with the HP but not with the torque.

I meant bored by GM, not aftermarket. So it would still have steel sleeves in the AL block. Provided, of course, there's enough room in the block for larger pistons.

[DevilKnightFalcon]

I'd rather have a turbocharged 6 than an extra 0.2 displacement.

[spyderbuddy]

The 3.8 Liter v6 is really very old design, its just been updated so much.
I had one in a Chevy Monza they where call a 231 cu in back then. Then I had one in the 2001 Chevy Impala. This engine has been supercharged, turbocharged, its been in trucks and cars

[spyderbuddy]

I had rather GM development the new engine

[Markal]

In the early 1980's I owned a 1969 Camaro with a 305...when it locked up...I had it replaced it with a 350. Wow...what a car...it was white with blue pin strips...rear fender flares...air shocks and wide tires on the rear...narrow tires on the front. People's jaws dropped when they saw it. Once while cruising around my wife asked me....why are all these people looking at me?...I responded..."they're not looking at you...they're looking at this car". They looked at the car....not the engine....just food for thought.... Exterior mods and overall look is most important for shows....engine mod is only important if you decide to race.....I like both worlds!!!
Mark

[mikeSS]

the v6 is not made for power.. its made to be cheaper. better on gas and ok power... the v8 has one thing in mine thats power...

if people are worried about power and they cant afford a v8, then they should get a used car that is faster then a v6 camaro

[two_wheel_mayhem]

.4 extra liters would probably be worth about 10 more horsepower on the current engine design.

[changprice]

Originally Posted by Brownhornitt

Worse gas milage? I don't know.

I think people are getting way too excited about the V6. Just let it be a V6. 312 HP is plenty. A couple of mods here and there and you're good to go.

well they can keep the same v6 engine 3.6, but if they do a weight reduction to at least 3400 pounds, it will be even faster probably it will do the 60 time in 5.2 sec

[changprice]

Originally Posted by duffmobile

kind of hilarious that a supercharged motor made 230 horsepower at one point

back then we thought it was a lot of horsepower

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by bhut

I think they were comparing naturally aspirated engines.

The 3.8's design dates to the early 60's. It had it's day and then some - it was a great engine for the last century. I've ridden in a fair number of cars with the 3.8 and while good, it doesn't compare to this new SIDI engine.

I am hoping for a good FI system for these new v6's, either from the factory in the next gen or from the aftermarket. Would be nice to have another 150 or so hp on tap with good gas mileage for the regular commute!

It was originally a V-8 design. And I believe GM sold it to Jeep and then bought it back. A lot of history there.

Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

I believe the OP was meaning just bore/stroke the current 3.6 out to 3.8 liters. Not update the old 3.8. If the current block isn't at it's cylinder wall thickness limit and/or stroke limit already, a 3.8 version would at the very least create more torque down low.

Then the OP should have stated specifically to bore the 3.6 to 3.8 and not included a picture of that dinosaur. It served its purpose and was just no longer competitive. It was maxed out for FE and more importantly, emissions.

Originally Posted by Frank in MD

Plus the engine is used in more than just Camaro. No need for a larger V6, if you want more power go for the V8.

Does anyone remember when the 3.8 was the V6 in the Camaro? I do. Drove one to Florida Christmas of 1993.