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FenwickHockey65 · 07-16-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fielderLS3

The more I think about it, maybe the judge is just an environmentalist abusing her power to punish you for not driving a Prius (by the way, don't those have clear lenses too?) Your real "crime" may have been driving a car with a V8.

Does this mean that every Prius driver in Maryland will be fined and forced to trade in their vehicles?

Whoa. This could be a good thing.

*The_Blur* · 07-16-2010, 07:26 PM

Let's not read to deeply into this. It might be more a matter of ego than a matter of hate for powerful cars. Judges are meticulous by nature. They are responsible for adhereing to the letter of the law in their jurisdiction, meaning that they will interpret laws carefully. The judge interprets local law to require red lenses. The next step in the court process is to challenge that the local law is unconstitutional because it supercedes federal law. Remember that judges are given power, and that power makes them feel invincible. They feel like their way is the way in their courthouses, so their way should be the way for everyone. The only way to bring this sort of ego back down to Earth is to have a higher court override the judge's decision.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-16-2010, 07:27 PM

BAN THEM! BAN THEM!!!!

fielderLS3 · 07-16-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Does this mean that every Prius driver in Maryland will be fined and forced to trade in their vehicles?

Whoa. This could be a good thing.

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

BAN THEM! BAN THEM!!!!

Could this be the next Toyota scandal??? Unintentional limited visibility?

1bad65 · 07-16-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

They are responsible for adhereing to the letter of the law in their jurisdiction, meaning that they will interpret laws carefully. The judge interprets local law to require red lenses. The next step in the court process is to challenge that the local law is unconstitutional because it supercedes federal law.

The letter of the law is clear that Federal law trumps any local, state, city, etc law. Since this car was cleared as being legal by the Federal government, the judge is way out of line, and the judge should know this.

lil_chef · 07-16-2010, 08:26 PM

how long ago was this? has the guy pressed the issue? this is the most ridiculous story i have ever heard......and my brother is a ricer, so i have heard plenty of stories..

*The_Blur* · 07-16-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 1bad65

The letter of the law is clear that Federal law trumps any local, state, city, etc law. Since this car was cleared as being legal by the Federal government, the judge is way out of line, and the judge should know this.

Like I said, judges have a tendency to lose track of this simple reality after smacking that gavel enough times.

You're completely correct.

2010 SSRS · 07-16-2010, 08:36 PM

send her to the chair

jacques · 07-16-2010, 08:43 PM

Looks like we didn't get the whole story

Sax1031 · 07-17-2010, 01:09 AM

Supposedly this is a picture of the tail lights in question:

Captain Awesome · 07-17-2010, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

Doesn't care what the Federal Government said?!

Prepare for a lawsuit .

Judges. Law be damned in their site.

Legislation from the bench. Don't you just love it?

And to think some of these "bizarro world" folks are in line for lifetime appointment!

Captain Awesome · 07-17-2010, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fielderLS3

The more I think about it, maybe the judge is just an environmentalist abusing her power to punish you for not driving a Prius (by the way, don't those have clear lenses too?) Your real "crime" may have been driving a car with a V8.

There should evnetually be some enviro-outrage against those 28" wheels because of their negative impact on the environment. I would only object on principle.

Captain Awesome · 07-17-2010, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jacques

Two words - Federal Preemption.

State law cannot supersede federal law in any area where a federal law exists. look at Article VI, Section 2 of the US Constitution, also known as the Supremacy Clause. That Judge must have failed Con Law in law school. I'll be interested to see what happens next.

Law schools have NOT taught constitutional law since the early 1900's... it's all based on "legal precedent" now. Hence, the mess we are in.

Jay J · 07-17-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sax1031

Supposedly this is a picture of the tail lights in question:

That's smoked..So technically it is illegal

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lil_chef Banned Drives: 2010 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 1,823	how long ago was this? has the guy pressed the issue? this is the most ridiculous story i have ever heard......and my brother is a ricer, so i have heard plenty of stories..

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Sax1031 Drives: 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Elgin,SC Posts: 2,707	Supposedly this is a picture of the tail lights in question: