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PQ · 04-29-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Something to note. There is not split or gap in the endlink tab on the stock LCA... if you have one on your Tab it is failed/failing... we confirmed this with GM at the fest.. That tab is one solid piece of metal no crack/gap/joint/seam at the top.

True. BUT there is a spur for whatever reason on ALL of them. Maybe where the stamp joint was at. But I confirmed that it is solid myself.

Yup. That day I told you I was gonna sand the paint off to see? And you told me not to? And you said just leave it alone and install it?........... I didn't.

I had to know. So I sanded it. YUP, solid. lol

*GTAHVIT* · 04-29-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PQ

True. BUT there is a spur for whatever reason on ALL of them. Maybe where the stamp joint was at. But I confirmed that it is solid myself.

Yup. That day I told you I was gonna sand the paint off to see? And you told me not to? And you said just leave it alone and install it?........... I didn't.

I had to know. So I sanded it. YUP, solid. lol

garcmol · 04-29-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Something to note. There is not split or gap in the endlink tab on the stock LCA... if you have one on your Tab it is failed/failing... we confirmed this with GM at the fest.. That tab is one solid piece of metal no crack/gap/joint/seam at the top.

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Originally Posted by PQ

True. BUT there is a spur for whatever reason on ALL of them. Maybe where the stamp joint was at. But I confirmed that it is solid myself.

Yep, it's solid, just a little bump on top for whatever reason. The Spohn LCA has 4 welded in gussets and it's boxed. This is waaaay down the road for me should a failure like this happen.

PQ · 04-29-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by garcmol

Yep, it's solid, just a little bump on top for whatever reason. The Spohn LCA has 4 welded in gussets and it's boxed. This is waaaay down the road for me should a failure like this happen.

Whoa........

So they have already come to the conclusion that Pete came up with. GOTTA enforce the top AND bottom.

garcmol · 04-29-2011, 10:15 AM

Yeah, pretty heavy duty.

Gonna go check out another forum members sway bar now. Thinks he bent it. I KNOW his endlink is bent.

PQ · 04-29-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by garcmol

Yeah, pretty heavy duty.

Gonna go check out another forum members sway bar now. Thinks he bent it. I KNOW his endlink is bent.

Ugh............. That sucks.

Oh, and Here is Spohns LCA. They added vertical material but the problem will still exist. And for 500.00, I don't think it's worth it.

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Darth_Emma · 04-29-2011, 10:27 AM

I thought about getting the Spohn LCAs too. But, as my stock LCAs appear fine, I'm going to wait.

I may get the Pfadt attachment pieces next time my car is in the shop for work.

What I'd prefer is if Pfadt would make their own version of the LCA.

PQ · 04-29-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

I thought about getting the Spohn LCAs too. But, as my stock LCAs appear fine, I'm going to wait.

I may get the Pfadt attachment pieces next time my car is in the shop for work.

What I'd prefer is if Pfadt would make their own version of the LCA.

There really is no benefit to a whole new LCA. UNLESS the end link tab problem is solved with a new one. But just change the busings and your done. Getting a new LCA still leaves the knuckle bushing stock.

*GTAHVIT* · 04-29-2011, 10:32 AM

Obviously spohn knew something the rest of us didn't...

Dan (600lpe) had been driving the hell out of his car and hasn't had a problem with his Spohn LCAs...

I'd think with the reinforcement strategy, like what Pete is proposing, any of our vendors could make a reasonably affordable LCA that would be less than $500 and be suitable for almost all of us...

No reported failures of the Spohn LCA??? so it seems they've got something right???

ZenitramSS · 04-29-2011, 10:47 AM

Okay so I finally read this entire thread and I do see some light at the end of the tunnel.

From what I see it's a MUST to replace the end links with an aftermarket end link that's adjustable.

Most of these cases come from cars that have the suspension modified (Lowered) in some way.

It appears that we are changing the dynamics of the suspension but yet we are leaving the stock end links and thus creating our problem.

I recently installed a Hotchkis Race Track suspension and the instructions say to set the replacement adjustable end links to stock settings.

Now why would we want to do this if it appears that the stock setting is wanting to rip itself out of the LCA mount?

I have a question for the professionals......would it be a good idea to extend the adjustable end link to 1/4" or longer from the stock setting to reduce the stress?

PQ · 04-29-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenitramSS

Okay so I finally read this entire thread and I do see some light at the end of the tunnel.

From what I see it's a MUST to replace the end links with an aftermarket end link that's adjustable.

Most of these cases come from cars that have the suspension modified (Lowered) in some way.

It appears that we are changing the dynamics of the suspension but yet we are leaving the stock end links and thus creating our problem.

I recently installed a Hotchkis Race Track suspension and the instructions say to set the replacement adjustable end links to stock settings.

Now why would we want to do this if it appears that the stock setting is wanting to rip itself out of the LCA mount?

I have a question for the professionals......would it be a good idea to extend the adjustable end link to 1/4" or longer from the stock setting to reduce the stress?

I can't answer the question, but I will say that the problem has been found on completely stock set-ups as well now.

garcmol · 04-29-2011, 11:19 AM

Spohn uses 3/16" steel, even on the endlink tab. That's thick. But like I said, that's waaaay down the road should the endlink tab fail. Right now all is good. Now it seems I spend more time under the car than washing it!

PQ · 04-29-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by garcmol

Now it seems I spend more time under the car than washing it!

motorhead · 04-29-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Something to note. There is not split or gap in the endlink tab on the stock LCA... if you have one on your Tab it is failed/failing... we confirmed this with GM at the fest.. That tab is one solid piece of metal no crack/gap/joint/seam at the top.

Wow! Then mine is failed and I have a stock setup. It's so strait of a crack that it looks factory. I have this on both sides. I don't get it. I'll be taking mine in for warranty then.

Thanks for the update.

04-29-2011, 10:15 AM	#299
garcmol Drives: 10 1LT SIM; 91 B4C sleeper Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Mitchell, Alabama Posts: 7,198	Yeah, pretty heavy duty. Gonna go check out another forum members sway bar now. Thinks he bent it. I KNOW his endlink is bent. __________________ Pedders Pace Car Package, Injen CAI, Flowmaster AT, AAC Lighting, ZL1 fascia/skirts, RKSport Ram Air hood, vented fenders, painted stripes (Gary's Customz), Honor and Valor badged (Thank you, John)

04-29-2011, 10:32 AM	#303
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	Obviously spohn knew something the rest of us didn't... Dan (600lpe) had been driving the hell out of his car and hasn't had a problem with his Spohn LCAs... I'd think with the reinforcement strategy, like what Pete is proposing, any of our vendors could make a reasonably affordable LCA that would be less than $500 and be suitable for almost all of us... No reported failures of the Spohn LCA??? so it seems they've got something right??? __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

04-29-2011, 10:47 AM	#304
ZenitramSS Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Surprise AZ Posts: 181	Okay so I finally read this entire thread and I do see some light at the end of the tunnel. From what I see it's a MUST to replace the end links with an aftermarket end link that's adjustable. Most of these cases come from cars that have the suspension modified (Lowered) in some way. It appears that we are changing the dynamics of the suspension but yet we are leaving the stock end links and thus creating our problem. I recently installed a Hotchkis Race Track suspension and the instructions say to set the replacement adjustable end links to stock settings. Now why would we want to do this if it appears that the stock setting is wanting to rip itself out of the LCA mount? I have a question for the professionals......would it be a good idea to extend the adjustable end link to 1/4" or longer from the stock setting to reduce the stress? __________________ 2011 2SS Imperial Blue - Volant CAI - SLP Ceramic Coated Long Tube Headers - SLP Hi Flow Cats - Flowmaster Cat Back - SLP Line Lock - Full Hotchkis Race Pack Suspension - LS3 Conversion - Wild Comp Cam - Circle D Converter - Edlebrock E Force Supercharger - Weld Racing Wheels - M&H Drag Radial Tires -

04-29-2011, 11:19 AM	#306
garcmol Drives: 10 1LT SIM; 91 B4C sleeper Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Mitchell, Alabama Posts: 7,198	Spohn uses 3/16" steel, even on the endlink tab. That's thick. But like I said, that's waaaay down the road should the endlink tab fail. Right now all is good. Now it seems I spend more time under the car than washing it! __________________ Pedders Pace Car Package, Injen CAI, Flowmaster AT, AAC Lighting, ZL1 fascia/skirts, RKSport Ram Air hood, vented fenders, painted stripes (Gary's Customz), Honor and Valor badged (Thank you, John)

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04-29-2011, 10:27 AM	#301
Darth_Emma Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh! Drives: under contruction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville, Ohio Posts: 12,996 View My Garage	I thought about getting the Spohn LCAs too. But, as my stock LCAs appear fine, I'm going to wait. I may get the Pfadt attachment pieces next time my car is in the shop for work. What I'd prefer is if Pfadt would make their own version of the LCA.