Camaro Sales -- 6,000 Sold orders 84% SS V8!

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by OverZeaLouS

they are doing it for a second year run of, more markups. its kool that people love the camaro so much, but there will be a HUGE PENALTY being so desperate to get this car. this is my issue. last year they built 150,000 camaros and sold like 135,000ish... so theres like 15000ish 2010's on lots along with a large amount of 2011 models.
the 2011 models will most likely be marked up again while the 2010s will run MSRP. the consumer is EXTREMELY STUPID for one HUGE reason. Buying at those markups will kill you in the end. 6 or a months from now 2010 true market used car values will surface. by that time i see over 200,000 camaros on the street. There is no way these cars will retain value. ANYONE making 60mo or 72mo car payments will be destroyed if they have to make sudden financial change. i dont see 2010 SS'being worth more than 25k by the end of next year and v6's will be pretty worthless unless you bought a 2lt. Maybe?
I been searching used camaros and tons have liens on them according to autocheck. When the used car market floods with repos the car is destined to depreciate drastically. just like escalade buyers. you guys will be extremely angry if and when you need or want to sell or trade.
This is going to affect GM negatively as well, causing the same problem that got them in the bailout situation in the first place.

You realize you were replying to a post made over a year and a half ago, right

They need to:
1) Get rid of the ls,1lt and 1ss. (to reduce build costs)
2) add more features (like make rs package and stereo upgrade standard) and reduce options.
3) raise base prices raise the v6 to start at $31k, SS at $36k, Z/28 $41k
4) build 100,000 total units and thats it.
5) End pre-orders to ensure better build quality
6) bring interior a little more up to spec.

greed kills, lessons havent been learned on GM's part.

1. They could probably kill off one or two trim levels and be alright.
2. its already pretty skimpy on options for the Camaro, and if they cut models and reduce options, sales will decline
3. Too high on the V6 and SS. And for the upgrade from the SS to the Z28, it would need to be at least $15k
4. Based on #2 and #3, 100k units wouldn't happen
5. Pre-orders on the Camaro ended when production began over a year ago. Not sure where you get the connection between pre-order and build quality.
6. Interior upgrade expected for 2012

You say greed kills, yet recommend cutting costs while raising the price?

[Ravirn]

Originally Posted by OverZeaLouS

greed kills, lessons havent been learned on GM's part.

[v6sonoma]

Originally Posted by OverZeaLouS

they are doing it for a second year run of, more markups. its kool that people love the camaro so much, but there will be a HUGE PENALTY being so desperate to get this car. this is my issue. last year they built 150,000 camaros and sold like 135,000ish... so theres like 15000ish 2010's on lots along with a large amount of 2011 models.
the 2011 models will most likely be marked up again while the 2010s will run MSRP. the consumer is EXTREMELY STUPID for one HUGE reason. Buying at those markups will kill you in the end. 6 or a months from now 2010 true market used car values will surface. by that time i see over 200,000 camaros on the street. There is no way these cars will retain value. ANYONE making 60mo or 72mo car payments will be destroyed if they have to make sudden financial change. i dont see 2010 SS'being worth more than 25k by the end of next year and v6's will be pretty worthless unless you bought a 2lt. Maybe?
I been searching used camaros and tons have liens on them according to autocheck. When the used car market floods with repos the car is destined to depreciate drastically. just like escalade buyers. you guys will be extremely angry if and when you need or want to sell or trade.
This is going to affect GM negatively as well, causing the same problem that got them in the bailout situation in the first place.
They need to:
1) Get rid of the ls,1lt and 1ss. (to reduce build costs)
2) add more features (like make rs package and stereo upgrade standard) and reduce options.
3) raise base prices raise the v6 to start at $31k, SS at $36k, Z/28 $41k
4) build 100,000 total units and thats it.
5) End pre-orders to ensure better build quality
6) bring interior a little more up to spec.

greed kills, lessons havent been learned on GM's part.

Wow! Just Wow! LOL These are the worst ideas ever. I think GM knows what it's doing. The only people who care about resale value are the idiots who shouldn't have bought the car to begin with and the Camaros used value was already reevaluated and RAISED once. I buy to own. Not rent for a year or so and get hammered. Thanks for bringing back an ancient thread. Any more irrelevant info to bring up? :notheadlights:

[x626xBlack]

[ViperTomcat]

Whats with all the Necro Threads lately?

[Steve Dallas]

Originally Posted by o2camaross

what is this supposed to mean