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wildpaws · 03-04-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

well, then I'll just order an LS9 from the factory and have them put it in the trunk of the car when they ship it to me. so its "stock"

That would be fine if they offered it, unfortunately they don't, so it's not stock.
Clyde

GatorBlue371 · 03-04-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpaws

The cross ram was listed as an available option from the factory and could be ordered when you placed your new Z/28 order at the dealership, it just was not installed at the factory. It could also be purchased as a Heavy Duty Service item at the parts counter and installed by the dealer or you could install that yourself. As far as I'm concerned if it was a configuration that could be ordered from the factory then it is stock, if it was ordered over the parts counter and installed then it was not stock from the factory. There were far more ordered over the parts counter and placed on Z/28s that had originally been single four barrels than there were cross rams ordered through the factory. I don't see the issue as much different than the stripe issues on the fifth gen. (though I think that has been changed now) where some stripe colors were going to be factory installed and other stripe options were to be dealer installed, if the stripes were ordered from the factory but dealer installed then I'd still consider them stock. The dealer installed cross rams that were ordered from the factory with a new Z/28 order came from the factory and not the performance parts division on a seperate order.
Clyde

Availible option... like the catback exhaust and other performance upgrades we can get on the 5th gen?

Factory installed or not, thats not stock. Its a performance upgrade option which is all about making it better than stock.

Silver Streak · 03-04-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

Availible option... like the catback exhaust and other performance upgrades we can get on the 5th gen?

Factory installed or not, thats not stock. Its a performance upgrade option which is all about making it better than stock.

wildpaws · 03-04-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

Availible option... like the catback exhaust and other performance upgrades we can get on the 5th gen?

Factory installed or not, thats not stock. Its a performance upgrade option which is all about making it better than stock.

So then the LS3 is not stock since it is a performance upgrade option over the base V6?? That's what the logic you just stated would imply.
Clyde

FreddyG · 03-04-2009, 10:16 PM

If they priced that right, I'd buy one!

The LSA motor is just SICK!

Silver Streak · 03-04-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpaws

So then the LS3 is not stock since it is a performance upgrade option over the base V6?? That's what the logic you just stated would imply.
Clyde

Anything added on to the base model LT LS or SS to gain performance, it is not stock anymore. I really don't understand what your point is. SS is a base model so how would that not be stock?

GatorBlue371 · 03-05-2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wildpaws

So then the LS3 is not stock since it is a performance upgrade option over the base V6?? That's what the logic you just stated would imply.
Clyde

?????

wildpaws · 03-05-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

?????

Perhaps you don't understand what you said to begin with, you said any available performance option to upgrade performance was not stock (while not a quote that was the meaning), the SS LS3 is an available performance option over the base model, so by your logic the LS3 is not stock. Really, some of you people just don't get what you are trying to argue, the cross ram manifold on the first gen. Z/28 was a FACTORY OPTION when ordered from the factory and was therefore stock. If I can order different wheels from the factory on a fifth gen. they are stock, anything that can be ordered from the factory via their regular new car order system is a STOCK available option. No different than different versions of the SS396 engine on the first gen. Camaro or the three two barrel version of the early Pontiac GTO in place of the single four barrel.
Clyde

GatorBlue371 · 03-05-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpaws

Perhaps you don't understand what you said to begin with, you said any available performance option to upgrade performance was not stock (while not a quote that was the meaning), the SS LS3 is an available performance option over the base model, so by your logic the LS3 is not stock. Really, some of you people just don't get what you are trying to argue, the cross ram manifold on the first gen. Z/28 was a FACTORY OPTION when ordered from the factory and was therefore stock. If I can order different wheels from the factory on a fifth gen. they are stock, anything that can be ordered from the factory via their regular new car order system is a STOCK available option. No different than different versions of the SS396 engine on the first gen. Camaro or the three two barrel version of the early Pontiac GTO in place of the single four barrel.
Clyde

"Availible option... like the catback exhaust and other performance upgrades we can get on the 5th gen?

Factory installed or not, thats not stock. Its a performance upgrade option which is all about making it better than stock. "

- Me.

The LS3 is not an option. It is the only motor available on a completely different model of car.

The short throw shifter and cat-back exhaust are options. Like the cross ram. These things are not stock because you have to order them as OPTIONS which can be installed in the factory but are still a performance upgrade over the stock car.

*radz28* · 03-05-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpaws

Perhaps you don't understand what you said to begin with, you said any available performance option to upgrade performance was not stock (while not a quote that was the meaning), the SS LS3 is an available performance option over the base model, so by your logic the LS3 is not stock. Really, some of you people just don't get what you are trying to argue, the cross ram manifold on the first gen. Z/28 was a FACTORY OPTION when ordered from the factory and was therefore stock. If I can order different wheels from the factory on a fifth gen. they are stock, anything that can be ordered from the factory via their regular new car order system is a STOCK available option. No different than different versions of the SS396 engine on the first gen. Camaro or the three two barrel version of the early Pontiac GTO in place of the single four barrel.
Clyde

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Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

"Availible option... like the catback exhaust and other performance upgrades we can get on the 5th gen?

Factory installed or not, thats not stock. Its a performance upgrade option which is all about making it better than stock. "

- Me.

The LS3 is not an option. It is the only motor available on a completely different model of car.

The short throw shifter and cat-back exhaust are options. Like the cross ram. These things are not stock because you have to order them as OPTIONS which can be installed in the factory but are still a performance upgrade over the stock car.

Let's calm down; I think some may be getting worked-up over nothing and try to get back on topic. I'm sorry for getting off topic, earlier, too.

After going to the same five stores for the last week, I finally got this issue. I'm compulsive, and will probably acquire every Camaro article there's going to be out there despite everything that gets posted here, but it wasn't bad speculation. Like it has been mentioned already, I hope it doesn't go the route of a limited edition because, surely, I won't be able to afford it, and that's certainly not been the traditional way Z28 has been (save for maybe the first generation; but not many people even knew about it, if I remember correctly). Anyhow, what speculation they have is certainly what I hoped the car could be; I just hope they don't crazy on the $$$.

Rallyman6 · 03-05-2009, 02:53 PM

kdbolt70 · 03-05-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rallyman6

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Rallyman6 · 03-05-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kdbolt70

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zebra · 03-05-2009, 03:51 PM

another one?!?!?

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