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cdb95z28 · 04-07-2016, 09:30 PM

Thanks, I really wanted it to look more seemless, originally wanted to mount it on the other side, but this was the simplest way. Also. I had to put it on a cant, but it dumps right on the cooler. I figured it wouldn't hurt along with the minimal investment

Aprojectile · 09-26-2016, 05:52 AM

How much of this info can be related to a 2012 V6? I'm on average sitting at 210 for my oil temp with my car and I want to eventually track my car some day. So im expecting the tempsame to really climb when that happens. But as far as I'm aware, the V6s have no oil cooler and no way to branch office to feed a oil cooler.

apr_gen5 · 05-10-2017, 07:38 PM

In the Speed Academy video about the Mantella Motorsports Z28R the belly pan was removed, perhaps for display purposes. However, does anyone know if the car was run without the pan? Possibly improved cooling was more important than aerodynamics?

Also, some of the forum members here have used ducting or NACA ducts to move air to the stock cooler; are the any updates on how these approaches performed?

Thanks for any replies.

Tony
13 ZL1

MTCobra · 05-10-2017, 07:51 PM

It never stops raining in Southern Illinois so I've not been able to track it on a really hot day.

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MTCobra · 06-14-2017, 06:16 PM

So it was 90 degrees out at Putnam Park this last weekend. Oil was ~300F according to the gauge but never went into limp mode. Car ran strong. I neglected to check the coolant temp.

I believe the duct is working though because the temp starts to fall almost as soon as the cool down lap starts. Prior to this it barely wiggled off pegged oil temp on the cool down.

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JusticePete · 06-14-2017, 09:49 PM

We have tried most everything and this is what we know works. The pictures are on a Z/28 that used to routinely go into limp mode. Since the install he has never seen limp or an oil temp over 240*

wakespeak · 06-28-2017, 05:11 PM

Here is an oil report that includes 2 track days. Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30 (Dexos2). Oil temps where consistently just over the 3rd tick on the gauge. Ambient was in the upper 80s. About 2000 miles on the oil before I changed for another track weekend.

IamR3D88 · 06-28-2017, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aprojectile

How much of this info can be related to a 2012 V6? I'm on average sitting at 210 for my oil temp with my car and I want to eventually track my car some day. So im expecting the tempsame to really climb when that happens. But as far as I'm aware, the V6s have no oil cooler and no way to branch office to feed a oil cooler.

If you find out, let me know. I've tracked my v6 and it gets real hot. Took a couple cool down laps every 5 mins or so. Was contimplating a standalone trans cooler to keep that and the coolant down, but no idea about oil.

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WoodBoss · 06-30-2017, 11:32 AM

To keep things a little cooler you really should try going with a 160* thermostat. Most don't understand that just because it's a 160* thermostat it's not going to make your Camaro run at 160*, the actual coolant temp will range from 178-187 depending on usage and the fan settings will need to be adjusted to come on sooner.

Mgizzle · 07-05-2017, 10:48 AM

Can you elaborate the thermostat a bit more please? I dont understand the advantage of it over stock one unless it allows for more flow, which it doesnt look like it does.

I run a thermocouple right through my oil plug so its reading actual oil temps. I used to run 300-304F on hotter days around the 80F ambient range. I run 5w-50 oil and no problems with oil analysis. However, I put a 2014 hood vent on my car and at decent ambients (75-80 i dont recal exactly) the hotest my temps got was 277F. Thats a huge drop and I still cant believe it. I have never seen that low a reading. I dont have A/C and a condenser either and still ran in the 300s prior to the hood vent change.

JusticePete · 07-05-2017, 01:01 PM

Thermal manage.ent is huge with an all aluminum LS furnace under hood.

Lonewolf583 · 07-06-2017, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

We have tried most everything and this is what we know works. The pictures are on a Z/28 that used to routinely go into limp mode. Since the install he has never seen limp or an oil temp over 240*

Just curiosity here - how much impact did the holes have in the front fascia to coolant/oil temps?

JusticePete · 07-06-2017, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf583

Just curiosity here - how much impact did the holes have in the front fascia to coolant/oil temps?

No idea as we have done them on all our shop installs.

jscott · 07-06-2017, 04:12 PM

For the guys running two row radiators and 160 degree thermostats, does engine temp run closer to 160 or do you still get 185ish?

04-07-2016, 09:30 PM	#337
cdb95z28 Drives: 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Johnstown, PA Posts: 3,320	Thanks, I really wanted it to look more seemless, originally wanted to mount it on the other side, but this was the simplest way. Also. I had to put it on a cant, but it dumps right on the cooler. I figured it wouldn't hurt along with the minimal investment __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR2014 1SS 1LE NPP RECARO SIM-SOLD1995 Z28 M6 GSC PGM-SOLD1975 NOVA COUPE 300HP 350 TH350 FLASH RED-SOLD

05-10-2017, 07:38 PM	#339
apr_gen5 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Yeh! Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Vancouver WA Posts: 29	Speed Academy Z28 Video In the Speed Academy video about the Mantella Motorsports Z28R the belly pan was removed, perhaps for display purposes. However, does anyone know if the car was run without the pan? Possibly improved cooling was more important than aerodynamics? Also, some of the forum members here have used ducting or NACA ducts to move air to the stock cooler; are the any updates on how these approaches performed? Thanks for any replies. Tony 13 ZL1

06-28-2017, 05:11 PM	#343
wakespeak Drives: 2020 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,347	Here is an oil report that includes 2 track days. Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30 (Dexos2). Oil temps where consistently just over the 3rd tick on the gauge. Ambient was in the upper 80s. About 2000 miles on the oil before I changed for another track weekend. Attached Images __________________ 2020 ZL1 1LE [Moroso SC Expansion Tank, otherwise stock]

07-05-2017, 10:48 AM	#346
Mgizzle Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LE 1SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,252	Can you elaborate the thermostat a bit more please? I dont understand the advantage of it over stock one unless it allows for more flow, which it doesnt look like it does. I run a thermocouple right through my oil plug so its reading actual oil temps. I used to run 300-304F on hotter days around the 80F ambient range. I run 5w-50 oil and no problems with oil analysis. However, I put a 2014 hood vent on my car and at decent ambients (75-80 i dont recal exactly) the hotest my temps got was 277F. Thats a huge drop and I still cant believe it. I have never seen that low a reading. I dont have A/C and a condenser either and still ran in the 300s prior to the hood vent change. __________________ I work for General Motors and am not an official spokes person for General Motors. My views and opinions are my own and not those of General Motors.

09-26-2016, 05:52 AM	#338
Aprojectile Drives: 2012 Camaro LS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Georgetown, SC Posts: 213	How much of this info can be related to a 2012 V6? I'm on average sitting at 210 for my oil temp with my car and I want to eventually track my car some day. So im expecting the tempsame to really climb when that happens. But as far as I'm aware, the V6s have no oil cooler and no way to branch office to feed a oil cooler.

05-10-2017, 07:51 PM	#340
MTCobra Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: So Cal Posts: 396 View My Garage	It never stops raining in Southern Illinois so I've not been able to track it on a really hot day. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

06-14-2017, 06:16 PM	#341
MTCobra Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: So Cal Posts: 396 View My Garage	So it was 90 degrees out at Putnam Park this last weekend. Oil was ~300F according to the gauge but never went into limp mode. Car ran strong. I neglected to check the coolant temp. I believe the duct is working though because the temp starts to fall almost as soon as the cool down lap starts. Prior to this it barely wiggled off pegged oil temp on the cool down. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-14-2017, 09:49 PM	#342
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	We have tried most everything and this is what we know works. The pictures are on a Z/28 that used to routinely go into limp mode. Since the install he has never seen limp or an oil temp over 240*

06-30-2017, 11:32 AM	#345
WoodBoss "Old School" Drives: 2010 2SS L99 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sherrills Ford, NC Posts: 1,294	To keep things a little cooler you really should try going with a 160* thermostat. Most don't understand that just because it's a 160* thermostat it's not going to make your Camaro run at 160*, the actual coolant temp will range from 178-187 depending on usage and the fan settings will need to be adjusted to come on sooner.

07-05-2017, 01:01 PM	#347
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Thermal manage.ent is huge with an all aluminum LS furnace under hood.

07-06-2017, 04:12 PM	#350
jscott Drives: 2010 2SS RS M6 npp e-force Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: South Texas Posts: 58	For the guys running two row radiators and 160 degree thermostats, does engine temp run closer to 160 or do you still get 185ish?