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Jim is bang on and I remember that car well! In fact, there are a few on this board who race 100K plus cars on a regular basis.
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03-30-2013, 12:38 PM | #352 | |
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Processing an order through build is contingent on having all the necessary components, available... I would say the volume restricter, and therefore the price/content decider, was the number of LS7s available...or NOT available. Supply/Demand curves were adjusted accordingly...and THAT is why we don't have the choice of a factory-assembled 1LE-LS7... Last edited by LOWDOWN; 03-30-2013 at 12:53 PM. |
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03-30-2013, 12:39 PM | #353 |
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[QUOTE=Jim968;6358662]I disagree, and here's why.
In 1993 and 1994 Porsche built a 911 model called the RS America. The car was built as a street legal track car. It had uprated suspension, brakes, aero, wheels and tires. It also had significantly reduced weight from deleted AC, power steering, radio/stereo, cruise control, sunroof etc. Rear seats were removed and replaced with light weight carpet. Even the door handles were replaced with cloth pull straps. Porsche built only 701 of these cars, but did people hoard them as garage queens and collector items? Hell no. Virtually all of them saw track duty. When I started doing track days in 1996 I would see several of these cars at every event I attended. Even today almost 20 years after they were introduced I can’t go to a PCA event without seeing at least one running around the track. Many have been modified into full blown race cars. Why should it be any different with the Z/28?[/QUOTE] Hmmmm that's easy...those are not Z/28's! I am trying to see the validity of your post but they are not one in the same..not even remotely sought after as are early Z's or COPO's and such.. |
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You are starting to lose me. You state that nobody is going to race these because they are too expensive and further, they will all be garage queens. Then when Jim points out that expensive performance cars are actually raced, you state that his point is invalid because his example is a Porsche and not a Z/28?
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03-30-2013, 12:48 PM | #355 |
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The GM precedent for de-contenting/price increase was the 1LE, circa Gen-4, when A/C was standard equipment on Z28-Formula but the 1LE option (initially) precluded the C60 feature...at no reduction in price. In fact, 1LE was Extra Cost...
http://www.camarosource.ca/rare_specialty/1le/ Porsche actually had the 911 Club Sport (decontented) version out in the '80s. Last edited by LOWDOWN; 03-30-2013 at 01:16 PM. |
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It's not necessarily the price of the car that will make these garage queens, it will be the fear of price of upkeep/fear of depreciation if its driven/tracked...read the posts, some even say they are gonna buy a different set of wheels to cruise around town and garage it the rest if the time...the car is meant to be driven and I promise you some are treating this as its gonna be buried with them. Sure you can hear in the tone of my posts a hint of jealousy, but I have worked my ass of for what I have and saved where I could in hopes of a 5th gen Z, had faith it would come out but sadly I fall too short of the social agenda I guess.
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03-30-2013, 01:08 PM | #357 | |
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03-30-2013, 01:15 PM | #358 |
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So again you wanted the nameplate Z/28, but not the actual car. A loaded original Z/28 in 69' was very expensive, why? It could have all the SCCA goodies added to it. It was a streetable racecar and is now a streetable racecar again. Think about it, how many 1969 cars had disc brakes let alone 4 wheel disc? And just that option was 1/5 the price of a Camaro in 1969. The car made the name. And it is once again.
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...F-bod just put up a great thread in the General Discussions, just FYI
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03-30-2013, 01:19 PM | #361 |
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Buy a ZL1.
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Go back and contemplate this a lil further... BTW, it's a Camaro...not a true exotic...that is the uber-Vette domain... |
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