My thoughts of the 2014 Camaro and the Z/28...... - Page 26 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

SilverSurfer21 · 04-01-2013, 11:42 PM

From EL ESS X
So if y'all will quit flogging this thread and trying to show how big each other's d!ks are, maybe, just MAYBE, we can all get back to constructively evaluating the hits/misses with the 14 model year Camaro.[/QUOTE]

The only BIG flaw is the generic taillights. That is what I have been saying and so has just about everyone else that has a problem with it. Don't take it personal. We have opinions too. Very seldom are first opinions wrong. That is why it is always said, " first impressions can make or break so try to make the best impression the first time." As I said and I won't change my mind...GM could have done better! Period. It was a small refresh done specifically for the new Z/28. The front was done purely for better drag coefficients so it had to be like that. The seats were a nice touch for a racing style car and the back was an after thought. Summed it up in two sentences.

Fbody father isn't allowed to say what he really thinks because he wouldn't be invited back again for the next changes. His job now is PR and trying to suppress negative remarks. He cannot say anything negative at all. He is not an engineer on the project and never was but just an invited guest and he don't want to lose that position. I totally understand his circumstances. He may actually love all the changes too but we will never know that is the case for sure. He is in a precarious spot right now and has to promote the total package.

I am glad you like all the changes. Some people like tooth decay too.

Bad@ssCamaro · 04-02-2013, 02:38 AM

You got the same 5 people going over the same thing's over and over again...you know that's the definition of.....

shl4Z28 · 04-02-2013, 07:18 AM

Congrats to Team Camaro Scott and keep up the good work. Maybe if I could just ask a favor and give us the option to squeeze that LS7 into a SS?!

Southern Comfort · 04-02-2013, 08:01 AM

Hey Scott,

Thanks for the insight to the events leading up to the 2014 reveal. It's obvious to the vast majority of us your team is working feverishly on these designs. Each release had been right on target, and the delivery numbers speak for themselves. I suspect those hurling insults really have deeper issues in life.

I credit this program with bringing the muscle car back and taking it mainstream.

Your team is right on target. Stay focused on the mission.

Rangore · 04-02-2013, 08:06 AM

Great job, Scott and team Camaro. Even with my preferences you guys still hit it out of the park. I can't wait to see one in person.

The tail lights are like the 2013 wheels. Very one complains and then seeing them in person makes them say...."they've grown on me". Which we all know is code for I like them, but didn't want to admit it.

Keep the Camaros coming Chevy!!!

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CamaroSkooter · 04-02-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer21

You forgot one!

Attachment 492471

What do you say now!

You realize you've been here for less than a full month and over 50% of your posts are in this thread alone? (As of right now, you have 31 total posts, 16 of which are in here)

Please go troll somewhere else.

2010_5thgen · 04-02-2013, 08:54 AM

soooo...its made for the track, yet as soon as you take it on the track it voids the warranty because of excessive abuse?

Angrybird 12 · 04-02-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

soooo...its made for the track, yet as soon as you take it on the track it voids the warranty because of excessive abuse?

May I ask where you got that information?

2010_5thgen · 04-02-2013, 09:07 AM

the owners manual.....dealerships....

TooCool5 · 04-02-2013, 09:17 AM

Can't help it Chevy Monza keeps popping in my head.

Chrisrp454 · 04-02-2013, 09:18 AM

BINGO!
Well said!

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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer21

Scott, I mean you no disrespect. But being a retired GM Engineering veteran of over 30 years and having bought a brand new 1973 Z28 in 1973 at 19 years old I can,'t hold back my opinion. When I first saw the 1968 Camaro I was a huge fan at 15 years old. I had to have a Camaro. I am now 59, soon to be 60 and through the years I watched the Camaro grow uglier and uglier with every change. This was partly because GM would cut funding half way into a design change and ruin the recipe. I watched it with the Oldsmobile Cutlass too. It was horrible to watch great cars ruined by bean counters instead of creative designers.

The reason the 5th generation Camaro was such a great success was all the input by the Focus team. They were not invited this time. How quickly GM forgets. The front of the car isn't that bad but the rear didn't get much thought at all. There are a lot of people on here that has "the Emperor's new clothes" syndrome. Just because you say everyone put in hard work in this redesign doesn't make it not suck. Those taillights are a big fail. They wrap around and are not flat like the 69'. They look like sedan taillights. Cheap at that and only the SS gets LEDs. Not modern in any way and they don't look at all like the 69's. It wasn't until the 4th generation did GM finally start making the Camaro look better after nearly twenty years of ugly designs. Then what, they stopped making them.

I can't believe that only two people besides me has the nuts to tell you the truth. Hence the Emperor's new clothes syndrome. Just because you say " we tried really hard," people feel bad that they insulted you so they are kissing your behind. Don't take it personal. The car has some good attributes but also has some bad ones. That's life.

I am in the process of buying a 2013 Camaro. I had a 2010 Camaro. I loved it. I won't be buying a redesigned new one until the 6th Generation comes out. Hopefully there will be real peoples input in that one.

Southern Comfort · 04-02-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

soooo...its made for the track, yet as soon as you take it on the track it voids the warranty because of excessive abuse?

soooo... I think we're covered bench racing all models.

Angrybird 12 · 04-02-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

the owners manual.....dealerships....

So you have seen the owners manual on the Z/28.... How privileged you must be and how well informed your dealer is...

2010_5thgen · 04-02-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

So you have seen the owners manual on the Z/28.... How privileged you must be and how well informed your dealer is...

no i have not, but thats the way manufacturers cover their a$$....it is however in the current camaro brochure...even ZL1

04-02-2013, 02:38 AM	#352
Bad@ssCamaro BeckyD Rocks :-) Drives: 2015 1SS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CT Posts: 5,778 View My Garage	You got the same 5 people going over the same thing's over and over again...you know that's the definition of..... __________________ 2015 CRT 1SS/1LE RS/Recaro's/NPP/Nav/Rear vision pkg./BA speaker upgrade. Stage 3 BMR cam, ARH 1 7/8 headers, CAI, BMR 1.25 drop springs, JPSS Billet Bushings, Peddars Cradle Bushings...460 whp...so far....SOLD, but not forgotten! Last edited by Bad@ssCamaro; 04-03-2013 at 02:31 AM.

04-02-2013, 08:06 AM	#355
Rangore Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Ed Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,220	Great job, Scott and team Camaro. Even with my preferences you guys still hit it out of the park. I can't wait to see one in person. The tail lights are like the 2013 wheels. Very one complains and then seeing them in person makes them say...."they've grown on me". Which we all know is code for I like them, but didn't want to admit it. Keep the Camaros coming Chevy!!! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Edition - No longer owned: 2010 Camaro 2LT, 1993 Camaro Z-28

04-02-2013, 08:54 AM	#357
2010_5thgen Drives: 2012 Porsche Panamera 4 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,275 View My Garage	soooo...its made for the track, yet as soon as you take it on the track it voids the warranty because of excessive abuse? __________________ Brixton Forged CM10 Wheels IN STOCK!!! RF7 SOON!!!! Camaro/M3/M4 wheels in stock High Gloss Titanium

04-02-2013, 09:07 AM	#359
2010_5thgen Drives: 2012 Porsche Panamera 4 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,275 View My Garage	the owners manual.....dealerships.... __________________ Brixton Forged CM10 Wheels IN STOCK!!! RF7 SOON!!!! Camaro/M3/M4 wheels in stock High Gloss Titanium

04-02-2013, 09:17 AM	#360
TooCool5 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LS 3.6 LLT V6 325 HP Join Date: May 2009 Location: LS Posts: 4,242 View My Garage	Can't help it Chevy Monza keeps popping in my head. __________________ 2010 Camaro Auto, Inferno Orange, Titanium Interior, Gearhead Wheels AIRAID CAI Last edited by TooCool5; 04-01-2019 at 09:04 AM.

04-01-2013, 11:42 PM	#351
SilverSurfer21 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2LT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 41	From EL ESS X So if y'all will quit flogging this thread and trying to show how big each other's d!ks are, maybe, just MAYBE, we can all get back to constructively evaluating the hits/misses with the 14 model year Camaro.[/QUOTE] The only BIG flaw is the generic taillights. That is what I have been saying and so has just about everyone else that has a problem with it. Don't take it personal. We have opinions too. Very seldom are first opinions wrong. That is why it is always said, " first impressions can make or break so try to make the best impression the first time." As I said and I won't change my mind...GM could have done better! Period. It was a small refresh done specifically for the new Z/28. The front was done purely for better drag coefficients so it had to be like that. The seats were a nice touch for a racing style car and the back was an after thought. Summed it up in two sentences. Fbody father isn't allowed to say what he really thinks because he wouldn't be invited back again for the next changes. His job now is PR and trying to suppress negative remarks. He cannot say anything negative at all. He is not an engineer on the project and never was but just an invited guest and he don't want to lose that position. I totally understand his circumstances. He may actually love all the changes too but we will never know that is the case for sure. He is in a precarious spot right now and has to promote the total package. I am glad you like all the changes. Some people like tooth decay too.

04-02-2013, 07:18 AM	#353
shl4Z28 Drives: 2012 Nissan Xterra Pro-4x Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Lost Wages, NV Posts: 329	Congrats to Team Camaro Scott and keep up the good work. Maybe if I could just ask a favor and give us the option to squeeze that LS7 into a SS?!

04-02-2013, 08:01 AM	#354
Southern Comfort No Tags/Habitual Violator Drives: 2012 SIM 2SS/RS & z71 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,379 View My Garage	Hey Scott, Thanks for the insight to the events leading up to the 2014 reveal. It's obvious to the vast majority of us your team is working feverishly on these designs. Each release had been right on target, and the delivery numbers speak for themselves. I suspect those hurling insults really have deeper issues in life. I credit this program with bringing the muscle car back and taking it mainstream. Your team is right on target. Stay focused on the mission.