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[tom692010]

Just my thought but I hate when you know what you want but people try to tell you that's not what you want. Of course what they say you want costs hundreds more than what you want....hey that might be the reason. Thanks for the help!

[tom692010]

At least Kirk is telling you he's selling you a defective CAI. It's a test to see who's silly enough to buy it from him.

Also Am I crazy? I have a dyno before and after of my car showing an increase in HP n TQ with my Hennessy CAI yet I'm told I have crap for a CAI and should take it out and spend another $400 for a real CAI. Did anyone get more than 14 hp/TQ gain with their CAI's. And the dyno's were done correctly at ...yes I know the dreaded Corvette Connections....!

[tom692010]

Yes I'm cranky and rambling this morning!
And one more thing have the gears and install come down from over 1K yet?

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by tom692010

Just my thought but I hate when you know what you want but people try to tell you that's not what you want. Of course what they say you want costs hundreds more than what you want....hey that might be the reason. Thanks for the help!

Man I know what you mean...I have hundreds of dollars of parts that I had to have only to find out they dont work...work right...or were needed. Like when deciding on Cats....many said I needed expensive special Hi Flow cats only to find out that plain ol magnaflo 75 dollar ones work great. Got a oil catch can albeit pink one from Ted that did not work because it had no back flow valve which was needed with a supercharger. Wasted 500 bucks on a tune for 5 HP. I say just do the research yourself and talk to those that you trust that are not selling anything at all and then shop for the best price for what YOU want.

[Icntdrv55]

As far as the defective MAFs go, it is only on the earlier production cars and only a few of them and it only affects your car if you have done any mods to it, even just a CAI and exhaust. If you take your MAF off, you can look on the side of it. There is a small indented triangle looking area. If you have 1 letter or number in that space, it is a "weak" MAF. If you have a letter and/or number, then you are fine. Like I said, this only affects cars with MODS and not even all off them.






Go to http://www.vararam.com/camaro.html for further info.

As for me selling a "defective" Vararam, now Larry you should know better then that. Vararam thought my problem was the MAF so they sent me out a new one for free. They said if it stopped the surging, we can call it even. Well it did stop the surging BUT I wanted one of their new vararam units so I called them up and paid for the MAF and had them send me a new unit. If someone trys my old one and doesnt like it, I will gladly take it back!

[Icntdrv55]

Originally Posted by Hulk

All of this LS3 talk is driving me crazy. What can be done for the L99 at our altitude as far as bolt ons and programming. Forced induction is way out of my budget so I am thinking I am limiting myself to intake, exhaust, and maybe tuning. What can I expect for this and what is a ballpark price for tuning?

You can get a CAI, cat back exhaust and a tune and you will be faster then any LS3 with the same mods. The tune makes a HUGE difference in the autos.

Sounds like Clint at AIR has a good tune for the L99s and hes got an excellent price on it!

JOIN THE L99 BROTHERHOOD!

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by tom692010

At least Kirk is telling you he's selling you a defective CAI. It's a test to see who's silly enough to buy it from him.

Also Am I crazy? I have a dyno before and after of my car showing an increase in HP n TQ with my Hennessy CAI yet I'm told I have crap for a CAI and should take it out and spend another $400 for a real CAI. Did anyone get more than 14 hp/TQ gain with their CAI's. And the dyno's were done correctly at ...yes I know the dreaded Corvette Connections....!

Nothing wrong with dyno at CC. As long as you are using the same dyno each time it should be consistant. Dyno is more or less a measuring device to see if you have improvements or not.

That Hennessy has to be flowing air...design and diameter is just like everyone else. Maybe heat soak is an issue but lets be real...How much is really lost on a NA mostly daily driver anyway. + or - 5 to 10 HP for another 400 bucks? Besides that Hennessy looks great and has a great finish and when you pop the hood at a car show no one knows the difference anyway.

I think the cats are a good investment and will show real gains but like I said above..with stock or shortie application the 75 dollar ones are fine.. On long tubes mine still seem to be ok but will have to see if they get hot enough to keep burned clean...

I have pretty much just settled in as a bitchy stuborn sob here on the forum and let the newbies get sold the ball of wax...

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by Icntdrv55

As far as the defective MAFs go, it is only on the earlier production cars and only a few of them and it only affects your car if you have done any mods to it, even just a CAI and exhaust. If you take your MAF off, you can look on the side of it. There is a small indented triangle looking area. If you have 1 letter or number in that space, it is a "weak" MAF. If you have a letter and/or number, then you are fine. Like I said, this only affects cars with MODS and not even all off them.

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Go to http://www.vararam.com/camaro.html for further info.

As for me selling a "defective" Vararam, now Larry you should know better then that. Vararam thought my problem was the MAF so they sent me out a new one for free. They said if it stopped the surging, we can call it even. Well it did stop the surging BUT I wanted one of their new vararam units so I called them up and paide for the MAF and had them send me a new unit. If someone tys my old one and doesnt like it, I will gladly take it back!

Kirk,,,so let me get this straight..the Vararam comes with its own maf and you dont use the stock one any more? Or the stock one that comes with the car was defective?

So it fixed your surging?

What could be causing Scourges surging then as he does not have a vararam?

I should have known you had some kind of deal going on...lol

Is the new one differnet than the old?

[Icntdrv55]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Kirk,,,so let me get this straight..the Vararam comes with its own maf and you dont use the stock one any more? Or the stock one that comes with the car was defective?

So it fixed your surging?

What could be causing Scourges surging then as he does not have a vararam?

I should have known you had some kind of deal going on...lol

Is the new one differnet than the old?

LARRY>>>>>>> YOU ARE KILLIN ME!

The Vararam does NOT come with its own MAF BUT they are selling them at cost if you need to get a new one. It is still a stock MAF. MY stock one was a "weak" MAF, meaning it would work fine with the stock air flow but not that great with the increased air flow caused by the Vararam. There is only a small lot of MAFs that fall into this catagory and even smaller number that actually affect anything. My car wasnt surging too bad to begin with but it completely stopped with the new MAF and OLD Vararam.

The new Vararam does have a bit of a different design and flow to it and it also has some sort of screen or cone in front of the MAF to help settle the airflow a bit.

As for Scourges surging, not sure but if he is running an after market CAI, I would check his MAF to see if its one of the "weaker" ones. Just my 2 cents as I am BY NO MEANS the Camaro expert you have become!! I belive you have surpassed Dons Camaro knowledge!

[Clint@A.I.R.]

Love this Camaro Thread... Here's my daily routine. Lets see...

Wake up in the morning...
check Camaro5/colorado thread on iphone...
stretch...
turn on laptop...
while laptop is warming up, take shower...
check Camaro5/colorado thread on laptop...
Dry off from shower...
check Camaro5/colorado thread on laptop...
get dressed...
Brew Coffee...
check Camaro5/colorado thread on laptop...
Pour Coffee, add cream...
check Camaro5/colorado thread on laptop...
add sugar to my coffee...
check Camaro5/colorado thread on laptop as I'm sipping my coffee...
Getting a late start in the day, turn off laptop...
Start my day...
Be mad that I cannot stick my laptop in my pocket...
Realize I have a iphone...
check Camaro5/colorado thread on iPhone...

[Clint@A.I.R.]

Originally Posted by Icntdrv55

As far as the defective MAFs go, it is only on the earlier production cars and only a few of them and it only affects your car if you have done any mods to it, even just a CAI and exhaust.

Good post...

The MAF will provide the best, most accurate readings when located where there is linear/straight air flow, I don't think it's a MAF resolution or increased volume airflow issue. After a CAI install the engine still consumes about the same amount of airflow, and only really starts to breathe alot more air after mechanical change like a Cam/Intake or heads.

Not sure if GM really accounted for the large amount of aftermarket CAI pieces the consumer would install. Different intakes have Curves or bends in the piping could effect MAF performance, the Vram especially.

The older mafs had a screen to straiten the airflow before the MAF could read, these MAFS don't. Looks like the newer MAF design helps in these situations.

Good find

Clint

[AquaRSSS]

Originally Posted by Clintair

Good post...

The MAF will provide the best, most accurate readings when located where there is linear/straight air flow, I don't think it's a MAF resolution or increased volume airflow issue. After a CAI install the engine still consumes about the same amount of airflow, and only really starts to breathe alot more air after mechanical change like a Cam/Intake or heads.

Not sure if GM really accounted for the large amount of aftermarket CAI pieces the consumer would install. Different intakes have Curves or bends in the piping could effect MAF performance, the Vram especially.

The older mafs had a screen to straiten the airflow before the MAF could read, these MAFS don't. Looks like the newer MAF design helps in these situations.

Good find

Clint

While we're on the subject, any benefits on trying to use an aftermarket MAF, like the one from JET? Has anyone tried one to see if it would help\hurt with mods?

Rob

[Clint@A.I.R.]

^^^ dont bother... most likely will do more harm than good.

[ud_lose]

Clint, when we do my tune (in about 3 weeks) can I bring down my stock intake, so we can see the gains from my New Era?