Mustangs................

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Its a hell of a lot easier to get an extra 10% more power when you start with ~69 hp/L (current 4.6L or LS3) than it is when you're at 82 hp/L (new 5.0L), so long as both are naturally aspirated. Thats just how it works. Are there gains to be made? Sure, just not as much. Modifications are not magic. Every engine obeys the same laws of physics and has certain limits. The closer you are to those limits when you start, the less bang for your buck you get when you try to improve it.

I agree with you bro, bolt on CAI+Tunes are giving 10-15 hp on the 2010's
but bolt on CAI's are giving 20-25 hp on the 05-09's since they upgraded the intake system for the 10' so yea i agree, but to a point, it doesn't mean there are no gains to be had.
pulleys, cmcv plate deletes, bigger maf's, cams etc...

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

If Ford can add VVT, 4 valve heads and a larger all aluminum motor, as well as a six speed transmission, for no extra cost, then they have either been raping customers on price for the past couple years, or they are going to lose money on every Mustang sold. Period.

Or as was already said the 2010 model already reflect's the price.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by meanmike

Or as was already said the 2010 model already reflect's the price.

Which leads to his bluntly put "raping customers for price" comment.

[10SS500HP]

Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

If Ford can add VVT, 4 valve heads and a larger all aluminum motor, as well as a six speed transmission, for no extra cost, then they have either been raping customers on price for the past couple years, or they are going to lose money on every Mustang sold. Period.

The 05 has VVT genius. 11 adds independant exhaust/intake VVT. The 05 is also all aluminum. The Getrag MT82 versus Tremec TR3650 are a wash in cost. Please educate yourself before you post. The 5.0L doesn't cost any more to produce. There are huge engineering costs associated that will be paid off over time. They don't add $25k to the car price to make it up in 2 months.

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Which leads to his bluntly put "raping customers for price" comment.

I did'nt catch that, either way it would have only been one year and it was'nt like the car did'nt have any upgrade's. Plus you dont think Ford has made a killing of of these car's over the last 7 or so year's. They could afford to take a small hit.

[10SS500HP]

Bunch of haters in here, totally lame. my FoOTBAll TeaM IS BEttEr ThNA YouR.s Lose the gang mentality. It have a 2010 SS and a 2010 GT500. Love them both. If you don't enjoy both, you are missing out.

[1320junkie]

Watch the language..and if you are a noob to the forum..read the forum rules and watch how you post

[KoTToN]

Originally Posted by 10SS500HP

Bunch of haters in here, totally lame. my FoOTBAll TeaM IS BEttEr ThNA YouR.s Lose the gang mentality. It have a 2010 SS and a 2010 GT500. Love them both. If you don't enjoy both, you are missing out.

yea well i invented the cookie, and also am buddha reincarnated. I still say thats pretty lame to raise the price for a part that isnt even in the car.

[10SS500HP]

Don't buy one then?

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by 10SS500HP

Don't buy one then?

Yep many people didn't. LOL that was a low blow but I had to say it.

[10SS500HP]

I think 2011 sales numbers will be interesting =)

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by 10SS500HP

I think 2011 sales numbers will be interesting =)

We'll see. But what is really interesting... I just said that an Evolution X will be better than any of the three muscle cars that are currently offered on GMI. We'll see how many attacks I'll get off of one post...

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by a_Username

We'll see. But what is really interesting... I just said that an Evolution X will be better than any of the three muscle cars that are currently offered on GMI. We'll see how many attacks I'll get off of one post...

as a moderator I have to say, don't troll.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

as a moderator I have to say, don't troll.

Please. 2 of my 7 posts over there have said the same thing: "Why do some articles still say the 2010 GT is better than the 2010 SS?" But if you want to see a troll, then look at the Simon Says guy over at GMI. He has a picture of some Ford executive in front of a Ford sign, with a picture of a 2010 GT with a Car & Driver quote about its Live Rear Axle.