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Hate it. Plain and simple. 11 7.19%
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:27 AM   #3809
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Another question is will ford be smart enough to give it a better suspension?
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:40 AM   #3810
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MY question is, are they still going live rear axle?
Yup.
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:42 AM   #3811
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dam when will it stop llol... how fast can cars get... it seems like they keep making them faster....
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:51 AM   #3812
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Another question is will ford be smart enough to give it a better suspension?
They already have the track pack available for the GT which i'm pretty sure handles better than a Camaro. Plus it'll be available on the new V6's as well, as an option, still with a live axle lol.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:04 AM   #3813
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And I'd bet you could use your fingers to count the members who could get 12.6 out of a stock camaro.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:07 AM   #3814
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I'm still not buying the 12.6 second run. While not as much of a regular as I once was I still spend a fair share of time down at the strip, and I've never seen anybody run faster than the 12.8-12.9 second range in a stock SS, and as far as I know neither have any of the guys I hang around with and several of them are serious GM diehards. (I'll double check) If the 12.6 gets backed up at the Fest and said run passes the sniff test I'll buy it, and that well may happen, but until then I'll remain a skeptic.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:08 AM   #3815
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Pretty sure the only reason people would buy a mustang instead of a camaro, besides fanboy-ism, is that the mustang is cheaper and more affordable.
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Like I said before, there is a dealership that is 4 miles away from my house that has 3 2SS's just sitting on their lot. And this is a very small dealership it's not a high volume dealership in a populated area., Come early summer, when 2011's are coming out, the camaro will be offered for 0%. I guarantee it
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apparently you didn't understand my post correctly. If there are 4 (now 6) camaros sitting at a low volume dealership, just imagine how many are sitting at the high volume dealerships
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There are nearly 20,000 members on this forum.


And I'd bet you could use your fingers to count the members who could get 12.6 out of a stock camaro.
I'm still not convinced we actually would need any of those fingers.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:09 AM   #3817
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I'm still not convinced we actually would need any of those fingers.
What is the story behind that run? Is there a slip?
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What is the story behind that run? Is there a slip?
As far as I know there is a slip, my question is just how stock this particular car was. I've been down that road before, and I know for a fact that some of the runs that get bantered around the net as legit for certain cars were not because I know the particulars of some of those situations and not everything was as kosher as presented. Am I saying that everybody is a liar or should be treated as such? Of course not, but skepticism is a healthy habit in my experience. I've not seen enough with regard to this guy or his run for me to trust it as truly legit yet.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:22 AM   #3819
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What about a comparison between;
1 - Visibility - I LOVE my Camaro, but visibility out to the rear either way (backing up) is bad
2 - Rear seat room - same as Camaro ?
3 - Handling - LOVE the way my car handles, does the Mustang get even close ?
4 - Trunk space
5 - Seat comfort
6 - Wheel options
i think the only ones that the camaro has the clear advantage is

handling - its hard to find now but a stock mustang without its crutch(trackpack) musters up a high .8+ g's while the camaro breaks .9's.

trunk space - although the opening is smaller I think the trunk itself is bigger.
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As far as I know there is a slip, my question is just how stock this particular car was. I've been down that road before, and I know for a fact that some of the runs that get bantered around the net as legit for certain cars were not because I know the particulars of some of those situations and not everything was as kosher as presented. Am I saying that everybody is a liar or should be treated as such? Of course not, but skepticism is a healthy habit in my experience. I've not seen enough with regard to this guy or his run for me to trust it as truly legit yet.
The thing that bothers me (and I'm as guilty of it as anyone else) is when people use outlier examples during a comparison.


"Yea well this car runs a 12.5!"


"Well this car once ran a 12.4!!!"




Always makes me think of some sports fan arguing with a martian.


"Yea well Usain Bolt ran a 9.6 in the 100 meter, so that's how fast humans are!!"


lol.... Maybe I'm on my own with that last one but hopefully someone follows me.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:40 AM   #3821
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The thing that bothers me (and I'm as guilty of it as anyone else) is when people use outlier examples during a comparison.


"Yea well this car runs a 12.5!"


"Well this car once ran a 12.4!!!"




Always makes me think of some sports fan arguing with a martian.


"Yea well Usain Bolt ran a 9.6 in the 100 meter, so that's how fast humans are!!"


lol.... Maybe I'm on my own with that last one but hopefully someone follows me.
^ perfect. Explained good enough for me. Wish I could explained it that way.

Is a Human capable? Yes. Can the average human run? Yes. Can the average human run 9.6? No.

Best analogy to what I was saying. What does the average or majority do? Not what it can do?

And if someone throws in a slow example thats like throwing in a Usain Bolt. Just from one extreme to another.

I guess I strive for modest and common examples. I dont like hearing extremes for examples what a car WILL do. That going to lead the average joe to disappointment and delusion.
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What is the story behind that run? Is there a slip?
I read the guy also had a tune on another board but that could be wrong also.
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