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John_C · 02-21-2019, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JMI

By looking at the flange, you received the 6L90 out of a CTS-V.
Not sure what else is different between the CTS-V and the Camaro 6L90.

I have 2 6L90 Camaro trannies here,one in the car now and the other as a spare.I was actually thinking of sending the spare to TK. I also run the Circle D Pro 258mm,but it's the 3000-3200rpm version,still flashes up to 3500rpm pretty quick. Not much for a 60 ft though,the best I could do was a 1.64 with 3.23 gears and 17" DR(with the old 6.2L engine)

Did you flash the TCM to your SS tune and did it work fine?

It is a CTSV 6L90.

I know the CTSV is a lot heavier than a Camaro SS.

My friends 4 door was 4400 on the scale at Beech Bend Raceway.

My SS was 4040 with me in it and 3/4 tank of 93.

It’ll be heavier now with the ProCharger D1X and all now. I bet 100 lbs easy.

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JMI · 02-21-2019, 05:41 AM

Yes, on my car anyways. the TCM needed to be reflashed to a ZL1 file matching the year of the transmission. Then you can tune it as before.
Mine was 3880 with 1/4 tank of fuel last time when we had the alum block and the 17" wheels.ZL1 diff.
I haven't checked it again with the LSX block yet.

John_C · 02-21-2019, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JMI

Yes, on my car anyways. the TCM needed to be reflashed to a ZL1 file matching the year of the transmission. Then you can tune it as before.
Mine was 3880 with 1/4 tank of fuel last time when we had the alum block and the 17" wheels.ZL1 diff.
I haven't checked it again with the LSX block yet.

I was told I could swap my 6L80 TCM in to the 6L90.

Can you confirm that works?

JMI · 02-21-2019, 11:02 AM

Same TCM yes, but the file itself is different(my case it was anyways) I just brought(towed) my car to the dealer and told them to reflash the TCM to a ZL1 file from the same year as the transmission,Mine is a 2013 model,so I used a 2013 ZL1 Vin number,the tech needs to put a vin number to reflash.Think 2012-2015 would also work if they use the same TCM module.Once the tech reflashed it,I drove it home.

John_C · 02-22-2019, 03:27 PM

The DSS driveshaft came today...

John_C · 02-28-2019, 06:34 AM

Changed it up... went with the fan cooled trans fluid cooler.

This one is the same, just without fans.

Oil thermostat-180F

Fan wiring harness

Some of the fittings and Bowler -6AN manifold

Got two 20ft boxes -6AN line

Rear main seal and rear main seal cover gaskets

Case of fluid

ZL1 trans support and mount plus driveshaft safety loop

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truepatriotmjm · 03-03-2019, 10:10 PM

Sent you a PM Hammdo

John_C · 04-09-2019, 09:51 PM

And so it begins...

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hammdo · 04-09-2019, 10:17 PM

Progress!

-Don

John_C · 04-09-2019, 11:07 PM

I definitely measured right because that Holley oil cooler fits in there like a glove on top of the Stage 2 ProCharger intercooler!

The fans are tucked in nicely on the backside of the cooler.

This was probably one of the most expensive trans cooler setups I could have chosen, but I think it'll payoff in the end.

It won't over cool in the winter cold months with the thermostat and it'll definitely keep it cool in the heat.

John_C · 04-15-2019, 07:03 AM

Ran in to a snag...

Was under the impression that the ZL1 and CTSV cross members bolt hole locations were the same, but they’re not!

The CTSV tail has the mount holes farther back, so now we have to fab up a mount to make it work.

Not even sure if we’ll be able to make the driveshaft loop work now.

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John_C · 04-18-2019, 11:08 PM

Snag resolved by my shop guy...

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So I don’t do anything half ass lol
I’m over at a buddy’s and we are gonna cut your transmission/mounting plate on his plasma table so it’s 100% and if anyone needs one later down the road they will be available.

Probably spent way more time than I should have on this but it fits beautifully and it is serviceable so it uses the stock mounts no modifications.

If something breaks it can be replaced and this piece swaps right over.

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hammdo · 04-18-2019, 11:28 PM

Nice solution!

-Don

John_C · 04-19-2019, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hammdo

Nice solution!

-Don

I'm lucky to have some smart dudes around here with the tools to do this stuff.

02-21-2019, 05:41 AM	#30
JMI Drives: Red Jewel Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: East Coast Posts: 396	Yes, on my car anyways. the TCM needed to be reflashed to a ZL1 file matching the year of the transmission. Then you can tune it as before. Mine was 3880 with 1/4 tank of fuel last time when we had the alum block and the 17" wheels.ZL1 diff. I haven't checked it again with the LSX block yet. __________________ BTR LSX388,AGP Twin Turbo.6L90,GM 9.9" Diff.Fore Innovations Level 4 fuel system.Great fuel economy !!!! 1xxx RWHP

02-21-2019, 11:02 AM	#32
JMI Drives: Red Jewel Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: East Coast Posts: 396	Same TCM yes, but the file itself is different(my case it was anyways) I just brought(towed) my car to the dealer and told them to reflash the TCM to a ZL1 file from the same year as the transmission,Mine is a 2013 model,so I used a 2013 ZL1 Vin number,the tech needs to put a vin number to reflash.Think 2012-2015 would also work if they use the same TCM module.Once the tech reflashed it,I drove it home. __________________ BTR LSX388,AGP Twin Turbo.6L90,GM 9.9" Diff.Fore Innovations Level 4 fuel system.Great fuel economy !!!! 1xxx RWHP

02-22-2019, 03:27 PM	#33
John_C LSx FTW!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: TN Posts: 772	The DSS driveshaft came today... __________________ 2010 2SS RS A6 781rwhp on E85 Stage 2 ProCharger D1X Circle D 3400 Triple Disc Kooks Jet Hot Headers Kooks Full 3in exhaust Trick Flow GenX 255's Polished PAC .660's & Ti-retainers TSP VVT 3.2 cam kit w/DoD Delete Smith Bro's Trunnion kit AEM X-Series OBDII Widebands FIC ID1300x Injectors GM ZL1 High Output Fuel Pump DSX Tuning Flex Sensor DSX Auxiliary Fuel System Tim King Stage 4 Max Effort CTSV 6L90 DSS 1 piece aluminum driveshaft JRE 6L80E / 6L90E Dipstick NGK Iridium IX spark plugs #7 heat range Mighty Mouse Camaro 5 Wild w/-12an and Billet Black HP Tuners VCM Suite

02-28-2019, 06:34 AM	#34
John_C LSx FTW!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: TN Posts: 772	Changed it up... went with the fan cooled trans fluid cooler. This one is the same, just without fans. Oil thermostat-180F Fan wiring harness Some of the fittings and Bowler -6AN manifold Got two 20ft boxes -6AN line Rear main seal and rear main seal cover gaskets Case of fluid ZL1 trans support and mount plus driveshaft safety loop Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2010 2SS RS A6 781rwhp on E85 Stage 2 ProCharger D1X Circle D 3400 Triple Disc Kooks Jet Hot Headers Kooks Full 3in exhaust Trick Flow GenX 255's Polished PAC .660's & Ti-retainers TSP VVT 3.2 cam kit w/DoD Delete Smith Bro's Trunnion kit AEM X-Series OBDII Widebands FIC ID1300x Injectors GM ZL1 High Output Fuel Pump DSX Tuning Flex Sensor DSX Auxiliary Fuel System Tim King Stage 4 Max Effort CTSV 6L90 DSS 1 piece aluminum driveshaft JRE 6L80E / 6L90E Dipstick NGK Iridium IX spark plugs #7 heat range Mighty Mouse Camaro 5 Wild w/-12an and Billet Black HP Tuners VCM Suite

04-09-2019, 09:51 PM	#36
John_C LSx FTW!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: TN Posts: 772	And so it begins... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2010 2SS RS A6 781rwhp on E85 Stage 2 ProCharger D1X Circle D 3400 Triple Disc Kooks Jet Hot Headers Kooks Full 3in exhaust Trick Flow GenX 255's Polished PAC .660's & Ti-retainers TSP VVT 3.2 cam kit w/DoD Delete Smith Bro's Trunnion kit AEM X-Series OBDII Widebands FIC ID1300x Injectors GM ZL1 High Output Fuel Pump DSX Tuning Flex Sensor DSX Auxiliary Fuel System Tim King Stage 4 Max Effort CTSV 6L90 DSS 1 piece aluminum driveshaft JRE 6L80E / 6L90E Dipstick NGK Iridium IX spark plugs #7 heat range Mighty Mouse Camaro 5 Wild w/-12an and Billet Black HP Tuners VCM Suite

03-03-2019, 10:10 PM	#35
truepatriotmjm Drives: 2015 2SS/RS with Twin Turbskies Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 266	Sent you a PM Hammdo

04-09-2019, 10:17 PM	#37
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,700 View My Garage	Progress! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577

04-09-2019, 11:07 PM	#38
John_C LSx FTW!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: TN Posts: 772	I definitely measured right because that Holley oil cooler fits in there like a glove on top of the Stage 2 ProCharger intercooler! The fans are tucked in nicely on the backside of the cooler. This was probably one of the most expensive trans cooler setups I could have chosen, but I think it'll payoff in the end. It won't over cool in the winter cold months with the thermostat and it'll definitely keep it cool in the heat. __________________ 2010 2SS RS A6 781rwhp on E85 Stage 2 ProCharger D1X Circle D 3400 Triple Disc Kooks Jet Hot Headers Kooks Full 3in exhaust Trick Flow GenX 255's Polished PAC .660's & Ti-retainers TSP VVT 3.2 cam kit w/DoD Delete Smith Bro's Trunnion kit AEM X-Series OBDII Widebands FIC ID1300x Injectors GM ZL1 High Output Fuel Pump DSX Tuning Flex Sensor DSX Auxiliary Fuel System Tim King Stage 4 Max Effort CTSV 6L90 DSS 1 piece aluminum driveshaft JRE 6L80E / 6L90E Dipstick NGK Iridium IX spark plugs #7 heat range Mighty Mouse Camaro 5 Wild w/-12an and Billet Black HP Tuners VCM Suite

04-15-2019, 07:03 AM	#39
John_C LSx FTW!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: TN Posts: 772	Ran in to a snag... Was under the impression that the ZL1 and CTSV cross members bolt hole locations were the same, but they’re not! The CTSV tail has the mount holes farther back, so now we have to fab up a mount to make it work. Not even sure if we’ll be able to make the driveshaft loop work now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2010 2SS RS A6 781rwhp on E85 Stage 2 ProCharger D1X Circle D 3400 Triple Disc Kooks Jet Hot Headers Kooks Full 3in exhaust Trick Flow GenX 255's Polished PAC .660's & Ti-retainers TSP VVT 3.2 cam kit w/DoD Delete Smith Bro's Trunnion kit AEM X-Series OBDII Widebands FIC ID1300x Injectors GM ZL1 High Output Fuel Pump DSX Tuning Flex Sensor DSX Auxiliary Fuel System Tim King Stage 4 Max Effort CTSV 6L90 DSS 1 piece aluminum driveshaft JRE 6L80E / 6L90E Dipstick NGK Iridium IX spark plugs #7 heat range Mighty Mouse Camaro 5 Wild w/-12an and Billet Black HP Tuners VCM Suite

04-18-2019, 11:28 PM	#41
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,700 View My Garage	Nice solution! -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577