Calling Pedder's People!

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Originally Posted by XanthosV6

I understand completely. Just glad to know it wasn't intentional. With all the component pieces adding up to 730, I would have expected the package price at closer to 650-675 - maybe even 700 - but definitely not 1000. Thanks for clarifying! I'll be buying these for sure when I get my car.
- Xanthos

I do not think any of the Camaro packages have been audited. By the time we start to sell them, they will. Now the way the merlin computer is set up, it would not have charged you the amount posted, the process is like using an excel spread sheet that does auto calculations. But he prices should be accurate for sure. I already sent Deb Basica a email about it.

thanks again

mike
dms

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by dms

I do not think any of the Camaro packages have been audited. By the time we start to sell them, they will. Now the way the merlin computer is set up, it would not have charged you the amount posted, the process is like using an excel spread sheet that does auto calculations. But he prices should be accurate for sure. I already sent Deb Basica a email about it.

thanks again

mike
dms

AH - so what it does is adds up the component prices, and either charges you that or a certain percentage of that?

Like I said, good to know you guys weren't just trying to pull a fast one!
- Xanthos

[Mr Twisty]

Mods, could we get a sticky for pedders suspension questions so they don't get buried?

Mike...
On the xtremes...

Can you explain what the adjust knob does?

Adjustment is for compression AND rebound?

Are the shocks made from hi-strength steel? Aluminum?

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Mods, could we get a sticky for pedders suspension questions so they don't get buried?

Mike...
On the xtremes...

Can you explain what the adjust knob does?

Adjustment is for compression AND rebound?

Are the shocks made from hi-strength steel? Aluminum?

I believe the mono tube itself is steel. and is completely threaded. The spring seats and adjusting nuts are high grade aluminum. The bracket that attaches the assembly to the knuckle is steel.

The front strut has the adjust knob sitting on top of the strut shaft. It is connected to a inner shaft that goes to group of valves at the end of strut shaft. As far as I know, we have the only "detented" adjuster. this means we have 30 specific locations for valve placement. So If you were at 10 clicks and you felt rambuctious, and wanted to take it to 15 clicks, as long as you can count, you can easily return it to your previous setting. Other products out there you rotate the dial to indeterminant location. This is challenging in itself because you will be able to feel the difference with each click. so just a dialed version will be just an estimate only of adjustment. For the rear, you will be able to reach in above the tire and turn the knob that is attached to a semi flexible cable. You will have to drill a hole in the upper mount assembly for this. Exact locations where to drill will be included in the instructions.

On a mono tube, design, there is no oil resevior like a normal shock or strut. There is just a transfer of controled fluid from top/bottom of the shock valves, all under heavy gas pressure. Mono tube struts and shocks have always been noted for great race shocks because of great control and control that is not as sensitive to heat generation as much as normal shocks. But the dissadvantage has been a harsher ride for street applications. This is the reason Pedders has not used monotubes in the past. Pedders goal has always been performance ride, but maintaining a high level of comfort. It took a long time for Pedders to come up with the design that meets their criteria. Now I will tell you setting the Xas to 20 for example will probably not be the setting you will want for normal street driving. You will probably have the settings for normal street at 8 to 10 clicks

Here are the instructions for the Pedders eXtreme Xas:









One of the really cool things about the Pedders eXtreme Xas is to be able to maintain coil spring rate balance. We do a preset on the coil seat. But the actual height adjustment is done by threading the Monotube in/out of the lower knuckle mount. this is a serious advantage because you maintain a balanced coil rate. Traditional coil overs will use spring energy to change heights, by changing the lower spring seats. We will also be offering 3 different coils: street, sport, and race. All the initial coil overs will come with sport. The sport coils are what we tested our Zeta here in the states with.
So if you have any more questions, just ask
mike
dms

[Mr Twisty]

That was the first thing that caught my eye was the height adjustability without affecting the spring setting, detent adjustment is great also...Nice job.

Now if we can get one of these engineers onsite to design a stepper motor and controller for on the go compression/rebound adjustment from the drivers seat.

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

That was the first thing that caught my eye was the height adjustability without affecting the spring setting, detent adjustment is great also...Nice job.

Now if we can get one of these engineers onsite to design a stepper motor and controller for on the go compression/rebound adjustment from the drivers seat.

That would be really cool




+1 on the sticky I might need this info later on when I decide to get my own set up

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

That was the first thing that caught my eye was the height adjustability without affecting the spring setting, detent adjustment is great also...Nice job.

Now if we can get one of these engineers onsite to design a stepper motor and controller for on the go compression/rebound adjustment from the drivers seat.

We ca do this and have bee chatting about it. Technology has bee out there for some time to be able to do this. However, the concern is the cost of doing it will be pricy and we are not really sure if the communities will reall embrace it.

mike
dms

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by dms

We ca do this and have bee chatting about it. Technology has bee out there for some time to be able to do this. However, the concern is the cost of doing it will be pricy and we are not really sure if the communities will reall embrace it.

mike
dms

While it would be cool to have, I (and I'm sure many others) wouldn't be able to justify the added expense.
- Xanthos

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Originally Posted by XanthosV6

While it would be cool to have, I (and I'm sure many others) wouldn't be able to justify the added expense.
- Xanthos

the Xas are soooooo easy to adjust to a very precise setting, makes it challenging to justify the expense of the electronics. But we are still working on it.

To do it right, requires a feedback system to confirm location precisely. this involves not just the electronics in the dampers, but also a processor and and most likely a indicator of some kind. Will poeple pay $500 + plus dollars additional? Not sure

mike
dms

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by dms

the Xas are soooooo easy to adjust to a very precise setting, makes it challenging to justify the expense of the electronics. But we are still working on it.

To do it right, requires a feedback system to confirm location precisely. this involves not just the electronics in the dampers, but also a processor and and most likely a indicator of some kind. Will poeple pay $500 + plus dollars additional? Not sure

mike
dms

I wouldn't. 50 bucks, maybe. 500? no way.
- Xanthos

[jeffny09]

i mightttt let me no

[Mr Twisty]

Price would be the factor. I don't know where the price break point would be, especially with this economy like it is.

[Xanthos]

I think for many it would be very, very low. There are a few who want a no-holds-barred-good-as-it-gets suspension at any price, but for the vast, vast majority...
- Xanthos

[Nexus6]

This is a bit off topic,but do you have a strut tower brace built yet? .and if so ,have you tested with just that added?