Car seems slow

[VR Baron]

Also to is the fat and flat torque curve of the LS engines. I have a 98 z28 and we thought, man this sure doesnt feel fast compared to the old fashioned LT1 whose torque peaked about 3000 rpm.It didnt have that bottom end good old v8 feel. But in the end The ls1 was .6 sec and 5 mph faster.

[VR Baron]

Originally Posted by The Ratchet

I test drove two coupes, both 2SS cars, because I thought something was wrong with the first one. Both automatics. Was completely underwhelmed. That tranny is not matched well to that motor, and the car is so heavy the motor doesn't do it justice. When I hit the gas I expect certain things to happen in the drivetrain that also translate to the seat of my pants. Neither happened. I think in the simplest terms there is no way to build a TOTALLY SMOKIN V8 american car for a measly $30k price. You may be able to mod the motor/tranny into that territory but out of the box I think it's a dud.

However on drivingthe V6, which is lighter, and also the tranny shift points seemed to match itPERFECTLY, it was a lot more fun to drive. And a vert no less. So I got the V6 vert and love it. On a drag strip time slip maybe it doesn't come close to the V8 time slip, but to my ass the V6 feels faster and that's all I care about in this type of car - having fun.

For you changing the rear end gears is a good idea, say to 3.73 or 4.11 also I read somewhere that you need to pull a fuse to reset the ECM if low octane gas was ever used (including by the dealer prior to you buying the car) as once it detects that gas it gets 'stuck' on that fuel table / timing curve even if u refill up with high octane.

I drove a l99 at main street in motion and I to was underwhelmed. A 4th gen owner did also and drove the v6. Said the same thing, lighter and quicker, or I would say maybe more fun.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by Eagles07

I have an 2011 SS A6 with 1200 miles and it just seems slow. I have filled up with 91 octane(highest around here) since got it and have also tried the fuse pull twice. I had a 2008 Mustang GT and the Camaro seems about the same speed as it. Maybe its just my imagination, but if I stomp on it it doesnt seem to go like it should. I have also tried turning off traction control and stabilitrac and same results. Does anyone have any ideas or is the engine just not really broke in yet?

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Have you checked under the hood to confirm its not a V6?

[Trevorw24]

The stock L99s I've driven and been in felt the same as my modded 6, but hey it's just feel not numbers

[1Camaro2SS]

Originally Posted by blizzpat

you should buy a corvette

Now you talking! Z06 with a gianormous CAM would do it!

[The Ratchet]

Originally Posted by blackbee

I drove a l99 at main street in motion and I to was underwhelmed. A 4th gen owner did also and drove the v6. Said the same thing, lighter and quicker, or I would say maybe more fun.

With the V6 it's building revs quicker with the lighter components and flywheel, it's also got 4 valves per cylinder dumping fuel in and removing exhaust, a higher compression ratio that is OVER 11:1 and to boot a 7,000 rpm redline. Translates into A LOT of fun.

The 2SS automatic tranny cars I drove felt like a truck motor, drove like a truck, responded like a truck. I was just like 'Really? This is what they decided to go with here?"

Problem building a high displacement V8 in this price range is that you are super-limited as to what components to choose and due to warranty specification it ALSO at the same has to be reliable for the duration of the powertrain warranty. Doesn't leave a lot of room to build something that is going to knock your socks off out of the box.

Now take a setup like say the Corvette Grand Sport on the other hand is a whole different story.

[Sin]

It's your imagination.

[lawman007]

Well I test drove the V6 w/6M and I can tell you this. When I was doin' 80MPH in 4th gear, before I looked down I thought we were doin' 45-50MPH! The ride is the thing here. If you were doin' 80MPH in a Camry or a Mazda it'd be a whole lot rougher. After that I thought to myself 'I'm going to have to learn how to drive the Camaro.' Maybe not learn how to drive it totally, but definitely get used to the feel of the ride. These aren't 'normal' mass produced cars, they are 'higher performance' and are on the 'high end' of the handling spectrum of things. You may not be used to the handling coupled with the horsepower of these cars. My $0.02 worth.
Troy Lawson

[Jason7]

Originally Posted by The Ratchet

I test drove two coupes, both 2SS cars, because I thought something was wrong with the first one. Both automatics. Was completely underwhelmed. That tranny is not matched well to that motor, and the car is so heavy the motor doesn't do it justice. When I hit the gas I expect certain things to happen in the drivetrain that also translate to the seat of my pants. Neither happened. I think in the simplest terms there is no way to build a TOTALLY SMOKIN V8 american car for a measly $30k price. You may be able to mod the motor/tranny into that territory but out of the box I think it's a dud.

However on drivingthe V6, which is lighter, and also the tranny shift points seemed to match itPERFECTLY, it was a lot more fun to drive. And a vert no less. So I got the V6 vert and love it. On a drag strip time slip maybe it doesn't come close to the V8 time slip, but to my ass the V6 feels faster and that's all I care about in this type of car - having fun.

For you changing the rear end gears is a good idea, say to 3.73 or 4.11 also I read somewhere that you need to pull a fuse to reset the ECM if low octane gas was ever used (including by the dealer prior to you buying the car) as once it detects that gas it gets 'stuck' on that fuel table / timing curve even if u refill up with high octane.

OUT TO LUNCH

Jason

[ArmoSS]

Apologies in advance for the rant below..but I'm just a little disappointed.

It's extremely interesting to read this thread, because just today (30 days, and 1200 miles, after I purchased my 2SS), I feel that even my LS3 isn't all that fast and doesn't have a great pick-up. I first drove the L99 and was heartbroken...I've owned an LT1 (M6) and currently own an LS1 '02 SS (M6). My '02 honestly feels a great deal faster than my '11. The pick-up feels faster, the sound is better, and the gear ratios are super awesome. With my '02, when cruising at 10 mph in first and punching it, you seriously get stuck to your seat; with my '11, punching while cruising in 1st gear, I felt that I can change the song on my I-pod, make a phone call, and take pictures of the scenery (aka: bored). I've done the same test cruising at around 45 mph in 4th gear...same result.. '02 kills it relatively speaking. In either one, you would think the '11 should have a quicker pick-up since it's higher reving.

I'm REALLY hoping that as time goes by and the whole 'break in' thing kicks in that it would feel faster, with more oopmh. Until then, $38k later, I'm fairly disappointed. That LS1 engine is still one of the best engineered engines in muscle car history... IMO.

Final thought: C5 Camaro is the best looking Camaro! Unfortunately, more bark than bite!

[justdenny]

My 2 cents...I haven't driven the L99...I own the LS3. As I recall, the L99 should beat the LS3 in the 1/4 by a few tenths(unmodded), then the LS3 pulls away based on HP. I owned a 68 Camaro 327 4 speed...there's no question it felt stronger in the lower gears than my 11 does, but the gear ranges are completely different and there's no way the 68 matched this car for speed, in any gear. I agree 1st is weak..seems almost like hitting redline before you feel it move...but 3rd...wow...I have never felt acceleration like that in anything I've driven in my life. I'm 58 so I've driven lots of cars. I can't speak to the L99 feeling slow, but many times I've been surprised at how fast my LS3 was going when I looked down because the ride's so nice. Take it to the track so you have something to go on besides a feeling...that's what I'd do if I could. By the way, I did drive the v6 auto as a rental, and it seemed like a missile at the time.

[Jason7]

Depends what your comparing the car to. For instance I drove a 2011 Porsche Turbo S last week and called 20 friends screaming that I had just got done driving the fastest car ever. After that experience, I drove my Camaro and it felt like a cavalier. Tonight however I had a chance to drive my aunts Srt8 charger then later my 2SS. Because I was back into reality I had a chance to compare my car to something relative. The camaros are a lot faster than they feel if that makes sense....

Jason

[DangerZL1]

I've read about people complaining about the 5.0 Mustang not feeling faster than previous versions too. It is just a more linear motor than the 4.6, but no one doubts its actual numbers. As others have said, you can't base a car's acceleration on how it feels, unless you're in a much more powerful car like the Turbo Porsche Jason drove. I saw a Cabrio at the local dealer listing for $179k! I'd take the Camaro to the track and find out what it really runs, or buy a tuner. The tranny nannies are too agressive on the L99.

[20Camaro11]

Originally Posted by DangerouSS

I've read about people complaining about the 5.0 Mustang not feeling faster than previous versions too. It is just a more linear motor than the 4.6, but no one doubts its actual numbers. As others have said, you can't base a car's acceleration on how it feels, unless you're in a much more powerful car like the Turbo Porsche Jason drove. I saw a Cabrio at the local dealer listing for $179k! I'd take the Camaro to the track and find out what it really runs, or buy a tuner. The tranny nannies are too agressive on the L99.

the first thing my father noticed when driving my car was how steady and smooth the power went down to the road. The last muscle car he drove was carburated where there was that delay and surge as the gas poured down the carb. Tranny nannies suck, but if it keeps the car reliable, I suppose.....