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Old 07-21-2009, 08:55 PM   #29
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So is the consensus that any dyno gains are purely from putting in new spark plugs? Regardless of age, driving habit, type, new sparks plugs cause dyno gains?

A new set of NGK spark plugs is over $160 anyway?

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where the hell are you buying NGK plugs for that much?

http://www.blowbyracing.com/ngktr6sppl.html

$30.00 for a full set.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:56 PM   #30
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I agree it could be in the head

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and in most cases, its not a gain of power, its re-gaining LOST power.



not when it costs $200 bucks for a set of plugs. there are more than enough customers out there that would NOT want to pay $200 more for "better" spark plugs. there will be plenty of buyers of the Camaro who wont change the plugs at all during the life of the car.



he's basically saying that the people who say they can "feel" an increase of 5-10hp are full of . and I agree with him. "butt dyno" aka going by the seat of your pants isnt an accurate way to gauge a mod. a lot of things have a placebo effect. people think it is doing something whether it is or not.




depends on the type of tires and what the car is being used for. and if you just happen to have a nitrogen tank in the garage....lol
But to say someone can not tell the difference in the way their car feels is not correct either. I without a doubt know if your car started to Not do something after you have had it for awhile you would FEEL the difference. Why couldn't it be the other way around.
Look at one of the other threads here saying their cars are slow,there was alot of feeling there until they strted to get real evidence.
I'm going to use my mpg for my piece of mind. I'm getting about 17 in the city. If I get the same results from these plugs as I expect it will be in the 19-20 range.
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where the hell are you buying NGK plugs for that much?

http://www.blowbyracing.com/ngktr6sppl.html

$30.00 for a full set.
TR55IX, 18.87 per plug, USD$ ...
TR6IX, 20.43 per plug, USD$ ...
TR7IX, 20.43 per plug, USD$ ...

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Everyone who thinks that this is an easy way to win a race will find themselves at the track in the same quarter mile times they had the previous week. If you really want to gain performance numbers, then you're going to need to pay like the rest of us.
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But to say someone can not tell the difference in the way their car feels is not correct either. I without a doubt know if your car started to Not do something after you have had it for awhile you would FEEL the difference. Why couldn't it be the other way around.
Look at one of the other threads here saying their cars are slow,there was alot of feeling there until they strted to get real evidence.
I'm going to use my mpg for my piece of mind. I'm getting about 17 in the city. If I get the same results from these plugs as I expect it will be in the 19-20 range.
if your ass can feel a change in 10 hp... you should be working for GM.
there's a lot of people out there who have also said that when they are doing 85, it feels like 50.




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TR55IX, 18.87 per plug, USD$ ...
TR6IX, 20.43 per plug, USD$ ...
TR7IX, 20.43 per plug, USD$ ...

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thats not per plug....

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Sorry, I disagree completely. The way to performance is not just a near infinite willingness to mod your vehicle and pay $$$ for that extra 0.1s ... it is looking for, and paying for that little bit here and that part there that results in OMG times.

No one is going to find a magic way to launch this car to get under 12s with just basic bolt ons. It will require some serious mods. To get under 11s will be the province of the highly or ultra modded cars.

BUT if you could part it out here and there, an extra 6hp from the spark plugs, an extra 18hp from the electric water pump, 50 pounds less rotating mass from a CF drive shaft, all of a sudden you may a car that by HP alone should be in the 12.25 to 12.5 pull off a 12.1 and make peoples jaws drop. No magic, just doing every single thing possible to get your time down WITHOUT dropping in 700+ hp ...

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Sorry, I disagree completely. The way to performance is not just a near infinite willingness to mod your vehicle and pay $$$ for that extra 0.1s ... it is looking for, and paying for that little bit here and that part there that results in OMG times.

No one is going to find a magic way to launch this car to get under 12s with just basic bolt ons. It will require some serious mods. To get under 11s will be the province of the highly or ultra modded cars.

BUT if you could part it out here and there, an extra 6hp from the spark plugs, an extra 18hp from the electric water pump, 50 pounds less rotating mass from a CF drive shaft, all of a sudden you may a car that by HP alone should be in the 12.25 to 12.5 pull off a 12.1 and make peoples jaws drop. No magic, just doing every single thing possible to get your time down WITHOUT dropping in 700+ hp ...

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except the fact that just because this part by itself nets you 10hp, and this other part by itself will net you 15hp, doesnt always mean that both of those parts installed together will net you 25hp.


as far as getting into the 11s... 200shot of nitrous will get you into the 11's.
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hmm all this talk on plugs has got me thinking my truck has 75k on it now and still has the original ac platinum's. Guess I'm do for a change. Yay tools and grime! I love a fun project
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thats not per plug....
Yes, that IS per plug ...

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except the fact that just because this part by itself nets you 10hp, and this other part by itself will net you 15hp, doesnt always mean that both of those parts installed together will net you 25hp.


as far as getting into the 11s... 200shot of nitrous will get you into the 11's.
So what? If I get 22hp, or I get 20hp, then assuming driver mod is equal, my car will beat yours.

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Yes, that IS per plug ...

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where the hell are you shopping at then? I just bought a set of 8 from Autozone for just over $30 bucks.
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Hmm My vette was done piece by piece...My Camaro is off getting it all done at once from one shop halfway across the country then directly to another shop back here in the east...I have less than 100 miles on it...I guess there is more than one way to mod a car
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where the hell are you shopping at then? I just bought a set of 8 from Autozone for just over $30 bucks.
They are different plugs. TR6 is the regular plug. TR6IX is the intro level racing plug, the iridium one.

They have spark plugs that cost over $100 EACH and up from there.

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They are different plugs. TR6 is the regular plug. TR6IX is the intro level racing plug, the iridium one.

They have spark plugs that cost over $100 EACH and up from there.

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so... you are trying to say that the plugs that I suggested cost 20 bucks a piece... by showing me a different plug?
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