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The Boat · 04-08-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberty1

I was in the market for both the Camaro SS and 370z... I built a base 370z with the Sport Package and navigation package and the price was at 42k... the Nismo will be, after all options considered around 44-45k...

I love the interior on the 370z a lot better, but the Camaro, overall, is my pick. And I have heard bad things about the quality of Nissans. Not sure I would want that kind of trouble when spending over 42k.

370z won't have tech option or any frills like that, only performance upgrades.

*DGthe3* · 04-08-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boat

Hmmm idk it will come close. Regular 370 did 13.3 in some tests. With 20 more hp and recalibrated ecu it might come close. It has grippier tires 2.

If you want to use 13.3 on the Nissan, use 12.8 on the SS.

perfxn · 04-08-2009, 05:07 PM

GTR gets smoked by the ZR1 WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT!! SMILES

RLHMARINES · 04-08-2009, 05:07 PM

the first season of speeds "bull run" showed that while the nissan was pretty agile, it finished in the lower ranks most of the time even with upgraded speed parts.

i know it was just a tv show but if we are talking speed and handling dollars being spent, i want power, reliability, and drivability for a price that will not break my bank account.

The Boat · 04-08-2009, 05:08 PM

IDk its pretty close in acceleration and it has much superior handling and roadhoalding. I think as far as performance goes the nism 370z has the camaro ss beat. I'm not saying I like it better but, It seems to greatly outperform the camaro.

The Boat · 04-08-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

the first season of speeds "bull run" showed that while the nissan was pretty agile, it finished in the lower ranks most of the time even with upgraded speed parts.

i know it was just a tv show but if we are talking speed and handling dollars being spent, i want power, reliability, and drivability for a price that will not break my bank account.

forget about getting power out of vq in less you wanna spend 20000 on twin turbo or even more for NA tuning!

ArcAngel · 04-08-2009, 05:16 PM

Wow some of the stuff in here is soooooo wrong. The 370z biggest negative against the SS IS THE LACK OF TORQUE. sorry had caps on LOL. The 370z fully loaded is 40000 not 42000. The nismo probably won't have the navigation etc so I will say 40000ish. Regular 0-60 is 4.7 1/4 mile 13.3. The nismo can easily do 4.4/.5 and 12.8/13 1/4. If you step outside the kool aid you will see the Z is an amazing car/compertitor

RLHMARINES · 04-08-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boat

forget about getting power out of vq in less you wanna spend 20000 on twin turbo or even more for NA tuning!

its camaro v8 power for me. i've lived in japan and driven a lot of their cars but reliable drivable power can only be had in a v8. i want low end grunt now not at high revs and who can argue with that v8 sound track.

Camaro for me!!

*DGthe3* · 04-08-2009, 05:45 PM

Can someone please explain why you think its getting much better straight line acceleration vs the regular 370? Yes it has more power, but also more weight and practically no more torque. The extra engine performance is almost all at the top end. Good for a road course, doesn't mean much at the strip. I am not a drag racer, but I have never heard of 20 hp improving things by half a second or more. In the Camaro, 26 hp and 50 lbs less weight is only good for 0.3s.

rayhawk · 04-08-2009, 06:02 PM

And look at the mph difference, the camaro is at 110-111, the z is at what, 103? The camaro is pulling away very fast with much steeper gearing. IMO you can't just look at ET because driveability and useable power shows up in the mph. The z is geared very aggressively to achieve those numbers, the camaro is barely trying...I don't think there is much excitement with the z below about 5000 rpm, peak hp numbers are only for advertising.

ArcAngel · 04-08-2009, 06:13 PM

Without a doubt. The torque is the deal!! Like I said above the lack of torque is it's biggest downfall and it seems with the vq the higher the hp the lower the torque. Unlike the chevy smallblock v8 where torque is almost always even to HP

Z06Shame · 04-08-2009, 06:32 PM

Torque is good, not to mention the sound of a V8. Plus, do you really want a car named NISMO?
I think the 370 looks like some kind of robot bug.

SGOS252382 · 04-08-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rayhawk

And look at the mph difference, the camaro is at 110-111, the z is at what, 103? The camaro is pulling away very fast with much steeper gearing. IMO you can't just look at ET because driveability and useable power shows up in the mph. The z is geared very aggressively to achieve those numbers, the camaro is barely trying...I don't think there is much excitement with the z below about 5000 rpm, peak hp numbers are only for advertising.

To the 370Z's credit, its been running 13.3 -13.6 @ 104-107 mph (on average - based on several different mags).

Compare that with 13.0 @ 110- 111 mph for the SS.
As we know the SS should be running in the high 12s with a 111mph trap speed.

And as you mentioned, as the speeds increase (80+mph), the SS's advantage will also increase. A 370z will get owned badly trying to keep up with an SS on the highway.

Georgie · 04-08-2009, 06:57 PM

camaro 2ss/rs no question in my mind

LS3, bada-- exterior, LS3, leather interior with bluetooth and all that s--t, LS3, HIDs and 20" wheels, LS3

LS3???

04-08-2009, 05:16 PM	#35
ArcAngel Drives: 07 Black Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manalapan-NJ Posts: 2,872	Wow some of the stuff in here is soooooo wrong. The 370z biggest negative against the SS IS THE LACK OF TORQUE. sorry had caps on LOL. The 370z fully loaded is 40000 not 42000. The nismo probably won't have the navigation etc so I will say 40000ish. Regular 0-60 is 4.7 1/4 mile 13.3. The nismo can easily do 4.4/.5 and 12.8/13 1/4. If you step outside the kool aid you will see the Z is an amazing car/compertitor __________________ Through HIM you believe in GOD, who raised HIM from the dead and Glorified him..

04-08-2009, 05:45 PM	#37
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	Can someone please explain why you think its getting much better straight line acceleration vs the regular 370? Yes it has more power, but also more weight and practically no more torque. The extra engine performance is almost all at the top end. Good for a road course, doesn't mean much at the strip. I am not a drag racer, but I have never heard of 20 hp improving things by half a second or more. In the Camaro, 26 hp and 50 lbs less weight is only good for 0.3s. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

04-08-2009, 06:02 PM	#38
rayhawk Drives: Cadillac CTS-V Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 1,065 View My Garage	And look at the mph difference, the camaro is at 110-111, the z is at what, 103? The camaro is pulling away very fast with much steeper gearing. IMO you can't just look at ET because driveability and useable power shows up in the mph. The z is geared very aggressively to achieve those numbers, the camaro is barely trying...I don't think there is much excitement with the z below about 5000 rpm, peak hp numbers are only for advertising. __________________

04-08-2009, 06:13 PM	#39
ArcAngel Drives: 07 Black Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manalapan-NJ Posts: 2,872	Without a doubt. The torque is the deal!! Like I said above the lack of torque is it's biggest downfall and it seems with the vq the higher the hp the lower the torque. Unlike the chevy smallblock v8 where torque is almost always even to HP __________________ Through HIM you believe in GOD, who raised HIM from the dead and Glorified him..

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RLHMARINES 1st Civ. Div. Drives: Camaroless for now...RIP "Big SexZ" Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 2,729	the first season of speeds "bull run" showed that while the nissan was pretty agile, it finished in the lower ranks most of the time even with upgraded speed parts. i know it was just a tv show but if we are talking speed and handling dollars being spent, i want power, reliability, and drivability for a price that will not break my bank account.

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The Boat His seafaringness Drives: yugo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: the somewhere in the pacific ocean Posts: 128	IDk its pretty close in acceleration and it has much superior handling and roadhoalding. I think as far as performance goes the nism 370z has the camaro ss beat. I'm not saying I like it better but, It seems to greatly outperform the camaro.

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