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Old 11-16-2011, 02:16 PM   #29
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I think there is a lot of potential in the next decade, depending on what happens with cafe standards...

Anyways check out this ruthless beating I take on a daily basis, half way down the page is when it gets "really" good..
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Old 11-16-2011, 02:24 PM   #30
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Competition breeds improvements. Plain and simple.......
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:05 PM   #31
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>Baylor airforce - you continue to impress me with your understanding of many things - and this was a great post.
Thanks for the kind words!
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:22 PM   #32
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:43 PM   #33
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How is Ford owning/winning anything? The car isnt out yet??? No one has anything to brag about because THE CAR ISNT OUT YET??
Im glad there is competition but come on give me a break.
Right on the money! Nobody has driven one yet but they have declared a winner. I'm sorry but a lot of you guys are hard to take. My advice ----- drive both, then talk. (not the opposite).
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:47 PM   #34
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Right on the money! Nobody has driven one yet but they have declared a winner. I'm sorry but a lot of you guys are hard to take. My advice ----- drive both, then talk. (not the opposite).
Only thing Ford isn't winning is the sales race..... 5.0 faster all the way around than a SS. What Camaro competes with the Boss again? GT500? C'mon man... Ford created this segment... CHEVY has been playing copycat for the entire time.. You guys should be thanking Ford for the Mustang and GT500 or you wouldn't even have a Camaro let alone ZL1. I remember when I got my 03 Cobra all the Camaro guys were complaining that "Ford had to use a supercharger" blah blah blah... Guess if you can't beat them, join them...
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:46 PM   #35
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Only thing Ford isn't winning is the sales race..... 5.0 faster all the way around than a SS. What Camaro competes with the Boss again? GT500? C'mon man... Ford created this segment... CHEVY has been playing copycat for the entire time.. You guys should be thanking Ford for the Mustang and GT500 or you wouldn't even have a Camaro let alone ZL1. I remember when I got my 03 Cobra all the Camaro guys were complaining that "Ford had to use a supercharger" blah blah blah... Guess if you can't beat them, join them...
You should thank Chevy for the 5.0 finally coming back.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:50 PM   #36
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:04 PM   #37
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You should thank Chevy for the 5.0 finally coming back.
I would agree with that. I think the competition is great for both sides.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:08 PM   #38
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Only thing Ford isn't winning is the sales race..... 5.0 faster all the way around than a SS. What Camaro competes with the Boss again? GT500? C'mon man... Ford created this segment... CHEVY has been playing copycat for the entire time.. You guys should be thanking Ford for the Mustang and GT500 or you wouldn't even have a Camaro let alone ZL1. I remember when I got my 03 Cobra all the Camaro guys were complaining that "Ford had to use a supercharger" blah blah blah... Guess if you can't beat them, join them...
Compete with a Boss? Drive a ZL1. Compete with GT500? Drive a ZL1. I guess maybe, just maybe, you should drive one and then run your fingers on the key board, until then you really don't know. And either do we. But we will this spring.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:10 PM   #39
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Oh, I remember a bunch of contraversy involving the VMAX, but I was young & don't remember the details. The ZX10 was a bad machine. I remember when the Ninja came out, I think it was a 900 back in 84 & Tom sported it in TOP GUN.
a few years ago an NFL player got hit by a car and hurt while riding his hyabusa, the news flipped out, talked about how he was hurt riding a motorcycle that can go over 200mph and this and that. funny part, he was on surface streets going 35 and someone changed lanes into him
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:11 PM   #40
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Compete with a Boss? Drive a ZL1. Compete with GT500? Drive a ZL1. I guess maybe, just maybe, you should drive one and then run your fingers on the key board, until then you really don't know. And either do we. But we will this spring.
You may be right.. One thing is for sure. No GT500 = No ZL1. And as of the time my fingers touched the keyboard all that I stated was true..
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It is the 1960's all over again. Hurray!! I love what is happening, but beware the nanny-nanny-booboos that will start complaining about it. I watched it happen with sporting motorcycles. They tried to ban them! They don't mind having $200,000.00, 200 MPH Mercedeses around, they object to having $55,000.00 180 MPH cars around that a lot of people can actually afford to own. I can already see the episode of Sixty Minutes with the "Killer Car" segment. That is what they tried to do to the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers in the 1980's.
Agree.... and the 60's HP war lasted a whole, maybe 3 years before the government stepped in and squashed it. So, if you want a super musclecar this time around, probly need to be thinking about pulling trigger pretty soon. Just don't Pull My Finger!!
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:20 PM   #42
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I have a GT500 and 2SS/RS. I love them both.

These are the best of times for us HiPo car guys. Seriously, the best.

The competition makes both brands stronger, hope that they don't get snuffed out like they were in the early 70's or we will be bickering about the good ole' days or which Prius model gets better mileage than a Leaf.

Our Pony cars can embarrass many (most) of the high brow imports at a moments notice. How long have we waited for that?
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