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Old 04-29-2012, 10:03 PM   #29
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Yeah, I will never put a front plate on my car. Hell no, and I am a Police Officer in Ohio where it is illegal to not have front plates. I will never pull someone over for it and I will never put one on.
Bless you, and be safe. I like it when a cop concentrates more on real crime.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:16 PM   #30
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There are A LOT of times when we need to get somewhere quickly and can't use the sirens. You don't want bad guys to know you're coming or they will just run. I probably go lights and sirens 3-5 times a month. NOW I completely understand where you are coming from. Most cops do speed when they shouldn't and when they aren't on a call. Now me, I drive the speed limits bc it's fun to watch all the speeders catch up to me and slow down then cause a traffic jam behind me bc everyone is afraid to pass.

NOW if you want a hilarious video...search "florida state trooper pulls over cop". HILARIOUS! haha
Great find.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:27 PM   #31
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Great find.
Haha you don't mess with lady cops. ESPECIALLY female state troopers lol.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:39 PM   #32
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Great find.
Alrighty, can someone please explain to me what I just watched there?
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:47 PM   #33
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Alrighty, can someone please explain to me what I just watched there?
A real life example of size matters, well more exactly that when it come to playing rocks, paper scissors.... State Troopers canvasing hwy motorist.......... on a authority scale, outrank off or on duty City Kitties.........
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:51 PM   #34
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That, bar none, is the best damned video ever posted ROFLMFFAO
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:58 PM   #35
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Angie every time you post something and I see it I see that summit white and am kinda jealous. I guess I will admit it.
Cause Summit White Rules.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:13 PM   #36
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There are A LOT of times when we need to get somewhere quickly and can't use the sirens. You don't want bad guys to know you're coming or they will just run. I probably go lights and sirens 3-5 times a month. NOW I completely understand where you are coming from. Most cops do speed when they shouldn't and when they aren't on a call. Now me, I drive the speed limits bc it's fun to watch all the speeders catch up to me and slow down then cause a traffic jam behind me bc everyone is afraid to pass.

NOW if you want a hilarious video...search "florida state trooper pulls over cop". HILARIOUS! haha
You sir must be one of those "cool cops" I hear about

I'm glad you didn't take that post negatively and what you say makes total sense.... So want to move to Gainesville to show cops here how it's done? LOL

I did see (about 2 weeks ago) a black dodge charger behind me one day and it was going fast! It swerved out of my lane and then went past me. Right behind it was a cop chasing. In the next 45 seconds about 12 to 15 cars were blaring sirens passing me chasing this car.

Possibly the coolest thing I've seen officers ever do! Huge respect
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:05 AM   #37
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They are honestly pretty pointless. PA people get to drive in NJ w/o them. Just rguergvjhsdfgf..... Some things irritate me... I dont get why it matters. Someone will chime in, but I just dont see the point. Wonder what the ratio of states that require it to states that dont is.... Can it be like Self Service gas stations? I know NJ and a FEW others at best dont have SS. Shrug. Cheers.
Nearly 3 years and 4 traffic stops and none of them have said anything about no plate on front of my car. Oregon and NJ are the only two states I know of that don't have SS gas.

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No LEO would write a ticket to another LEO for something like that. Maybe for nearly killing someone.... And even that is a big maybe. There is a brotherhood, call it professional courtesy.... But if it's another LEO or family member, there is a very high chance that there will be no pen to paper observed.

Then you have the anomalies, the cops that will write on their own. Luckily, these are not common creatures.

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I guess you mean cops that write on their own kind. There are also cops that write for laws, codes, statutes that don't exist.

Last month I got cited for Improper Acceleration. I got home and immediately started searching for info. Turns out that Texas no longer has an acceleration offense since 2003. I then searched city codes and the only thing refered to motorcycles and front wheel leaving the ground. I sent the citation in with a not guilty plea and then went to the city secretaries office to request open records search for acceleration offenses. They called me back last week and said it is not a city ordinace but their legal team Googled it and it is a state law.

WTF? They have to Gooogle the law? I then asked how I can get a copy of the law and she put me on hold while she Googled it herself. After a couple minutes she came back on the phone and said she would have to do some more checking. The next day I got a call from a city prosecutor and he asked if my inquiry was because I got a citation. I said yes it is. He ask if I was in my car or a motorcycle. I said I know why you ask but I was in my car and told him to my knowledge acceleration is no longer an offense. He said I was correct and the citation will likely be dismissed. Now I'm just waiting for the official notice.

I now have a dashcam DVR because I have to go through the same officer controled intersection every morning. My concern is they will now try to cite me for something that didn't quite happen the way they say. I will always have a witness now that also has eyes in the back of it's head and records g forces as well as gps and speed.

Edit: This ordeal made me wonder how many people get cited and just send in a guilty with payment for something that wasn't even a violation. As an inspector, I will always question the jurisdiction and validity of any infraction. I read codebooks daily and have to interpret those codes for compliance. A little research goes a long way.


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Alrighty, can someone please explain to me what I just watched there?
You saw a lady cop that has a pair!
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:36 AM   #38
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Nearly 3 years and 4 traffic stops and none of them have said anything about no plate on front of my car. Oregon and NJ are the only two states I know of that don't have SS gas.

I guess you mean cops that write on their own kind. There are also cops that write for laws, codes, statutes that don't exist.

Last month I got cited for Improper Acceleration. I got home and immediately started searching for info. Turns out that Texas no longer has an acceleration offense since 2003. I then searched city codes and the only thing refered to motorcycles and front wheel leaving the ground. I sent the citation in with a not guilty plea and then went to the city secretaries office to request open records search for acceleration offenses. They called me back last week and said it is not a city ordinace but their legal team Googled it and it is a state law.

WTF? They have to Gooogle the law? I then asked how I can get a copy of the law and she put me on hold while she Googled it herself. After a couple minutes she came back on the phone and said she would have to do some more checking. The next day I got a call from a city prosecutor and he asked if my inquiry was because I got a citation. I said yes it is. He ask if I was in my car or a motorcycle. I said I know why you ask but I was in my car and told him to my knowledge acceleration is no longer an offense. He said I was correct and the citation will likely be dismissed. Now I'm just waiting for the official notice.

I now have a dashcam DVR because I have to go through the same officer controled intersection every morning. My concern is they will now try to cite me for something that didn't quite happen the way they say. I will always have a witness now that also has eyes in the back of it's head and records g forces as well as gps and speed.

Edit: This ordeal made me wonder how many people get cited and just send in a guilty with payment for something that wasn't even a violation. As an inspector, I will always question the jurisdiction and validity of any infraction. I read codebooks daily and have to interpret those codes for compliance. A little research goes a long way.




You saw a lady cop that has a pair!
So you're sayin we can do a sick burnout in front of a cop and as long as we are under the speed limit it's ok? lol

You think that would be wrecklace driving?

Thanks for bringing this to light. you should post this in the TX section for us Texans
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:41 AM   #39
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I do not like the front plate requirement either but they have to be on all vehicles up here. Fortunately for the next few months (our DMV is really slow at processing new registrations) I can legally drive without one, until the plates come in then its going to have to go on...

....it honestly upsets me when I hear other LEO's talk about "professional courtesy". Our job does not give us exemptions from the law. People have a right to expect higher stanards in us. Granted, no front plate is not exactly high on my list of citable violations and it is rare I write a citation to ANYONE for equipment issues. However, when I do stop someone and the first thing they do is badge me or give the ol' "I'm a cop", they are almost certainly going to get a ticket because of the reason stated above and because they obviously are not going to change their driving habits with a warning. Should I get stopped for speeding in my new beast (as most of you know, it is hard to not catch yourself speeding) then I deserve a ticket, price of having a pony car...
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:07 AM   #40
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Sometimes I've wanted to be a police officer, just to ticket other police officers. Look, I've got the most respect for you guys and putting your lives on the line for others, but when those lights are not on, you're just another driver and that means you can't go 10-15 over the speed limit.

Police in my area have a hard time understanding that laws apply to all, not just non-police people.

Of course I don't mean you in particular, just police in my area
I'm not sure how it is in FL but in CA posted speed limit is suggested (unless it is MAX SPEED).
Going 15 MPH over posted may not even be speeding if conditions are clear, dry, little to no traffic etc.

90503 is right.

Tactics can dictate lights and sirens. Even calls that an officer can "have the lights on" doesn't mean they want to. If I was driving to the area of an active shooter, I certainly do not want him to know where I am when I am arriving on scene.

We constantly have to defend our actions because there are many people who have no idea what law enforcement is about yet give their uneducated opinions anyway.

I guarantee the police officers in your area know the laws much better than you think they do. There is a difference between the letter and spirit of the law.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:10 AM   #41
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I'm not sure how it is in FL but in CA posted speed limit is suggested (unless it is MAX SPEED).
Going 15 MPH over posted may not even be speeding if conditions are clear, dry, little to no traffic etc.

90503 is right.

Tactics can dictate lights and sirens. Even calls that an officer can "have the lights on" doesn't mean they want to. If I was driving to the area of an active shooter, I certainly do not want him to know where I am when I am arriving on scene.

We constantly have to defend our actions because there are many people who have no idea what law enforcement is about yet give their uneducated opinions anyway.

I guarantee the police officers in your area know the laws much better than you think they do. There is a difference between the letter and spirit of the law.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:01 AM   #42
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No LEO would write a ticket to another LEO for something like that. Maybe for nearly killing someone.... And even that is a big maybe. There is a brotherhood, call it professional courtesy.... But if it's another LEO or family member, there is a very high chance that there will be no pen to paper observed.

Then you have the anomalies, the cops that will write on their own. Luckily, these are not common creatures.

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I've let off a whole lot of civilians for moving and equipment violations. Mostly because those violations were probable cause to stop them, but ya, when I stopped a fellow LEO for a minor violation I never wrote it.

I always wanted to know where the gun is in relation to the ID and his/her hands, so I prefer'd a fellow cop to ID immediately.

With all that being said, it doesn't matter who you are if your behavior is felonious or you are acting like an idiot. You can talk yourself into anything..
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