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View Poll Results: If u were the ZL1 chief engineer, would u have chosen a better 1/4 mile performance?
No. I would have engineered the ZL1 for superior circuit track performance, like it is now. 62 57.94%
Yes. I would have engineered the ZL1 for 1/4 mile instead of circuit, if I had the choice. 45 42.06%
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:26 PM   #29
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:54 PM   #30
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I think the ZL1 is perfect the way it is, but it would be REALLY NICE if it ran high 11's from the showroom.
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:05 PM   #31
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Everyone is forgetting what the "ZL1" moniker represents. That's exactly what GM brought back into existence...the "ZL1". Not a Camaro...not a Z28. It's the ZL1 and they properly built it to perform just as the original ZL1's did and carry on the genetics of the nameplate. If you want a drag strip queen then buy an SS and throw money at it. The ZL1 performs just as its original big brother was designed to do...carve the road course with authority.

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Old 06-20-2012, 04:32 PM   #32
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Is anybody surprised by the poll results thus far? Why even put up the poll in the first place?
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:57 PM   #33
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I know you were probably talking stock to stock here but few of us ever leave the same tires on the car when they need a new set. Just wondering what a GT500 would handle like on the exact same rubber? ZL1 = 285 front and 305 rear vs GT500s = 265 front and 285 rear. I know the Mag Ride is great but how much of the advantage is in 3" of more rubber on the ground vs the Mag Ride? I know they can never get the ride quality out of the 500 but are they a $300.00 set of lowering springs and set of tires away from => track handling?
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:04 PM   #34
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I know you were probably talking stock to stock here but few of us ever leave the same tires on the car when they need a new set. Just wondering what a GT500 would handle like on the exact same rubber? ZL1 = 285 front and 305 rear vs GT500s = 265 front and 285 rear. I know the Mag Ride is great but how much of the advantage is in 3" of more rubber on the ground vs the Mag Ride? I know they can never get the ride quality out of the 500 but are they a $300.00 set of lowering springs and set of tires away from => track handling?
I don't know maybe. I think the bigger question is why everyone is acting as if the GT500 can't handle. It kept up with a car with superior suspension and is probably faster than a lot of other vehicles.

Based on some comments you would think the car couldn't make it around the track much less make a turn at a stop light.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:06 PM   #35
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I know you were probably talking stock to stock here but few of us ever leave the same tires on the car when they need a new set. Just wondering what a GT500 would handle like on the exact same rubber? ZL1 = 285 front and 305 rear vs GT500s = 265 front and 285 rear. I know the Mag Ride is great but how much of the advantage is in 3" of more rubber on the ground vs the Mag Ride? I know they can never get the ride quality out of the 500 but are they a $300.00 set of lowering springs and set of tires away from => track handling?

This thread has nothing to do with the GT500 ... So try again
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:06 PM   #36
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I think adding power is easier than making a car handle great wile having a nice ride.

for example ford folk will bring up forged internals.

which is cheaper to add fogred internal or a magnetic ride suspension? it is a loaded question because you can't even add this type of supension to the shelby if you wanted to.

honestly I would rather have both but I like my cake and to eat it too and that probably why I am fat.
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I would've liked the ZL1 to have been more competitive in acceleration, in addition to having good handling. Its a good package overall, but the cobra's numbers make me wish that the zl1 could've come in the competition with closer hp and acceleration numbers.

Unfortunately, as is the difference between the two cars is enough to make me think twice about buying a current ZL1.
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This thread has nothing to do with the GT500 ... So try again
You're right. If I were the engineer, I would've punched the engineer that thought of the MR for the ZL1. Only because I haven't thought of it first.

Seriously though, the ZL1 is the most well rounded performance muscle car. Didn't want to say sports car. That's for the ZR1.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:34 PM   #39
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If to go fast on a road course, or to be a corner carver the ZL1 would NOT be my choice, neither would the GT500 be my choice for the drag while I am on a budget. All you guys praising the ZL1 for the auto cross cause you'd rather drag a SS are idiots.

You can make a better drag or auto cross car than the ZL1 or the GT500. If I were to autocross I'd be looking at some sort of 240 or Miata NOT a 4000lbs+ camaro or even a mustang.
If I were to drag I'd build a foxbody, cause that's my personal choice, or some other old shell.

Spending 55k on a ZL1 could get you a far better autocross vehicle for that money. You guys make the ZL1 out to be some magic magnetic flying carpet.

People buy these cars cause of their history, or to go fast, or just because it's an expensive sorta-rare camaro or mustang.
ha ha a miata. ohhh that makes me laugh. I don't even think my penis would fit inside a miata.

maybe a chevy chevette instead of a fox body. that would be sweet. then I could say I still have a vette. there used to be a guy that had a low 10 second chevette at woodburn and since it is faster in a strait line it is obviosly a better car.

that post was so off topic I think I got a contact gay from reading it.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:04 PM   #40
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I don't know maybe. I think the bigger question is why everyone is acting as if the GT500 can't handle. It kept up with a car with superior suspension and is probably faster than a lot of other vehicles.

Based on some comments you would think the car couldn't make it around the track much less make a turn at a stop light.
Until you made this post, absolutely no one had brought up GT500 handling. So's....
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You're right. If I were the engineer, I would've punched the engineer that thought of the MR for the ZL1. Only because I haven't thought of it first.

Seriously though, the ZL1 is the most well rounded performance muscle car. Didn't want to say sports car. That's for the ZR1.
A little off topic, but I remember seeing on the Discovery channel about 20 years a go a show about new inventions. They had this little mom and pop shop bring in this bucket of goo, they invented. They demonstrated how when they put a current to the goo, they could change it from a liquid to a solid or any state in between. They said at the time they were trying to sell it to the military for the use in the troop carriers.

Shortly after that, GM started using it in their H1's and it went from there, to where we are today.
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Both. I want acceleration to out run other American cars and better track performance to out corner the European cars.
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