Why no SRT8 comparisons?

[Fatstackz]

Originally Posted by blackedout010

a tune!!!!! well run a camaro with a tune!! the camro unlike your srt is very very choked from the factory!! i mean picking up 15-20rwhp with a tune. o and the camaro doesnt have a 5.7??? are you talking about a 4th gen??
im paying 34315 out the door! where are you geting 32k for a fully loaded 2ss???? go to the site and build one. more like 35-37k.
omg no one wants a 4 door camaro just like no one wants a 4 door charger lol if you wanna call it that??

It is a "Canned tune" some claim 30 hp increase, may argue its much less, some have posted lower dyno numbers with the same tune.
Im not the one claiming to get an SS for 10k less that an SRT8, that is exactly my point. Someone getting a fully loaded new SS for 32K which alot of these guys are stating with thier "10K less" comparison. Not gonna happen with a new model car. Thats what I find funny about this whole thread. SS guys only want to compare price and power to a car they haven't paid for yet, much less driven,dynoed or raced. All against an "SRT8" which they claim to be a pig, with comparable HP/TQ in 5 different models to choose from. Most of these cars you are comparing your "Race ready" vapor cars too, are in fact luxury/utility vehicles.
Yes, thats right, SRT8 comes in the Jeep Grand Cherokee, Chrysler 300, Dodge magnum, Dodge Charger, and the Challenger. Do some research, check the wieghts on these cars and tell me lightest to heaviest. You will be suprised.
Guys, the Camaros ARE cool, but lets not kid ourselves.
Peace

[ironpeddler]

The SRT8 should be Challenger model compared with the SS. The R/T really won't be able to keep up with the SS.

[DeathChill]

Originally Posted by Fatstackz

It is a "Canned tune" some claim 30 hp increase, may argue its much less, some have posted lower dyno numbers with the same tune.
Im not the one claiming to get an SS for 10k less that an SRT8, that is exactly my point. Someone getting a fully loaded new SS for 32K which alot of these guys are stating with thier "10K less" comparison. Not gonna happen with a new model car. Thats what I find funny about this whole thread. SS guys only want to compare price and power to a car they haven't paid for yet, much less driven,dynoed or raced. All against an "SRT8" which they claim to be a pig, with comparable HP/TQ in 5 different models to choose from. Most of these cars you are comparing your "Race ready" vapor cars too, are in fact luxury/utility vehicles.
Yes, thats right, SRT8 comes in the Jeep Grand Cherokee, Chrysler 300, Dodge magnum, Dodge Charger, and the Challenger. Do some research, check the wieghts on these cars and tell me lightest to heaviest. You will be suprised.
Guys, the Camaros ARE cool, but lets not kid ourselves.
Peace

I don't think a fully loaded SS is $10k cheaper than an SRT8, but base 1SS to a base SRT8 Challenger is a $11k difference, which is pretty large. I KNOW that the SRT8 comes with a lot of stuff the 1SS doesn't, but we're talking about performance cars here so performance is probably your number one priority, especially if you're on a budget.

I never said the Challenger or any of the other cars were pigs. I don't think it's true anyways.

I don't understand the part about cars they haven't driven/dynoed yet. Yep they may not have their cars but that doesn't mean that their car will be special and suddenly be unable to perform. We already know it slightly edges out the SRT's and there's nothing wrong with that.

People who think the SS destroys any of the SRT's are wrong, but the SS does edge them out ever so slightly.

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by ironpeddler

The SRT8 should be Challenger model compared with the SS. The R/T really won't be able to keep up with the SS.

i believe they are sticking to the price range thing, if they werent than you could compare the SS to say a GT500 or something.

[1320junkie]

Originally Posted by Unfair

i believe they are sticking to the price range thing, if they werent than you could compare the SS to say a GT500 or something.

Thats all they do on this forum..lol

[edbrick]

Originally Posted by vega$

or 12k.. *cough gt500 cough*

Exactly what im sayin.

[edbrick]

And the only thing in the GT 500 price range to compare is CORVETTE but the Mustang guys dont know that word

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by edbrick

And the only thing in the GT 500 price range to compare is CORVETTE but the Mustang guys dont know that word

but isn't the corvette a 2 seater sports car? and the gt500 is muscle car. how do they compare them?

[ironpeddler]

Originally Posted by Unfair

but isn't the corvette a 2 seater sports car? and the gt500 is muscle car. how do they compare them?

Yes, and no you cannot compare them. GT500 is more comparable to the SS than to the Corvette exactly for that reason IMHO. Corvette is a pure sports car with no back seats and doesn't weight 2 freaking tons. GT500/SS both weight basically 4000 lbs. and have back seats.

[Fatstackz]

Originally Posted by DeathChill

I don't understand the part about cars they haven't driven/dynoed yet. Yep they may not have their cars but that doesn't mean that their car will be special and suddenly be unable to perform.

What I mean is, alot of these guys are racing cars THEY don't even have yet. Alot different in the real world. I have personally shocked and awed some cars that should kill me according to thier forum blowhards. Not saying the SRT8 cannot be beat, that has happened plenty as well but, I will tell you it is highly underestemated on the street by most. Thats what I love most about it. I also realize that the pig reference was another poster. You actually sound like a guy that is knowledgeable about the topic, that is why I answered your post.

[Fatstackz]

Originally Posted by blackedout010

a tune!!!!! well run a camaro with a tune!! the camro unlike your srt is very very choked from the factory!! i mean picking up 15-20rwhp with a tune. o and the camaro doesnt have a 5.7??? are you talking about a 4th gen??
im paying 34315 out the door! where are you geting 32k for a fully loaded 2ss???? go to the site and build one. more like 35-37k.
omg no one wants a 4 door camaro just like no one wants a 4 door charger lol if you wanna call it that??

Dude,
Like you, I don't have a Gen 5 yet. Again read the post.
Yes, My SRT8 kills MY 2000 SS. That is all I have to compare it to and only put it out there for another reference. Keep in mind its an LS1.
And yes, a 2000 SS is tuned from the factory my friend. My 2000 SS is in no way comparable to my 300 SRT8. Not in class, power or performance. I believe the new SS is only comparable somewhat in price, and performance.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Fatstackz

Dude,
Like you, I don't have a Gen 5 yet. Again read the post.
Yes, My SRT8 kills MY 2000 SS. That is all I have to compare it to and only put it out there for another reference. Keep in mind its an LS1.
And yes, a 2000 SS is tuned from the factory my friend. My 2000 SS is in no way comparable to my 300 SRT8. Not in class, power or performance. I believe the new SS is only comparable somewhat in price, and performance.

I'm not sure I'd agree with much of anything posted here and what you've posted already. I'm not sure I caught whether-or-not your SS was a stick or auto', but either would compare pretty fairly in terms of performance, especially in terms of acceleration. Bone-stock SSs could be found running high-12s, and though I don't have the article, I know of an auto' Trans Am running bottom 13s. Aren't these about the same as your 300? If you call a restrictive SLP catback tuned (I say restrictive because it was know that many with this catback actually had a restrictor in the inlet to keep noise down because of complaints with the original 2OTL catbacks on the LT1s) that's just plain funny to me. The Blackwing SLP put on the final run of SSs in '02 were the closes thing to tuned, with the exception of their tweeks (in multiple packages) to the suspension. To compare your SS in this way to your canned-tuned SRT8 is not fair, IMO. I don't know how much, if any, Chrysler has TM, but I know auto' LS1s had it bad. I know, because my stalled Z28 would absolutely pissed off my PCM if I had an TM in there. Anyways, I'm done with that comparison.

"Any Camaro SS's coming with 4 doors, electric sunroof, DVD Navigation system, rear DVD entertainment center, Full stiched leather, Uconnect bluetooth, auto dimming mirrors, heated seats, dual zone comfort controls, factory upgraded sound with subwoofer, HIDs, Fogs, BF Goodrich F-1 supercar tires, 20 inch rims. Brembos?
I guess if I left all that out, I'd have a car worth about 10k less that is still faster than my SS is."

My beef is your opinion a new SS is only comparable somewhat in price and performance. I'd be a little erked if this wasn't coming from an SRT8 owner because you are obviously not objective. To make this statement completely blows my mind. So far, it seems the SS is at least at the same level of performance as an SRT8 car and definately a better value in terms of price. Perhaps the only place Camaro falls a little short is in the amenities, and that's not by much. At least we don't have a carry-over interior from other cars like the Challenger. As far as class, even with your 300, I think that's arguable. I'm not sure if I misunderstood the quote above, but Camaro offers almost all of those, save for rear-seat related features. I wish I had more time to go into detail, but I'm reading these posts as more of a troll trying to start something than someone who's on a Camaro enthusiasts site because they like/love Camaro. I won't give this any more of my time because, at this point, it's not even worth it.

Peace...

[Ninjak]

Chiming in on a GT500 compared to a vette..A vette is a pure sports car. Its shaped like a sleek arrow, and only gets faster at higher speeds. Even if a GT500 can take it off the line, in a sustained race, over 100+ speeds, the Vette will easily catch and pass it base on aerodynamics alone. It would do the same to the Camaro.

You cannot compare a pure sports car to a muscle car. If you need to compare the Vette to something from the ford lineup, it has to be the GT40.

[blackedout010]

Originally Posted by Ninjak

Chiming in on a GT500 compared to a vette..A vette is a pure sports car. Its shaped like a sleek arrow, and only gets faster at higher speeds. Even if a GT500 can take it off the line, in a sustained race, over 100+ speeds, the Vette will easily catch and pass it base on aerodynamics alone. It would do the same to the Camaro.

You cannot compare a pure sports car to a muscle car. If you need to compare the Vette to something from the ford lineup, it has to be the GT40.

agreed aerodynamics and weight plays a big factor on the vette.