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BFASTNOTLAST · 02-27-2013, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ModernMuscle

Its not me and that is not our dyno I am only going by what another customer is telling us.

Exactly the point I was tying to get across.... Why rely on an outside source? Own the thread, provide all the data you collected and stand behind it. Now your coming across a defensive and by remarks like the one above. It's all in the presentation and you missed the boat here. Just look at it this way if you had all the real world proof that your product did what it was suppose to you wouldn't be able to keep up with the orders. It's almost like you shot yourself in the foot for poor marketing skills. Facts and data are the end all tell all. Simple as that.

Scott@Bjorn3D · 02-27-2013, 06:33 AM

Send one to Ted Jannetty, if he shows 25 gain you will sell thousands of them.

litle88 · 02-27-2013, 06:44 AM

^^^^lol Send it to The Lord of Camaro5 and you shall receive^^^

David Weber · 02-27-2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88

^^^^lol Send it to The Lord of Camaro5 and you shall receive^^^

Do you have contact information?

BFASTNOTLAST · 02-27-2013, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by David Weber

Do you have contact information?

Google Jannetty racing or call 203 753 RACE

David Weber · 02-27-2013, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BFASTNOTLAST

Google Jannetty racing or call 203 753 RACE

Thanks

David Weber · 02-27-2013, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BFASTNOTLAST

Exactly the point I was tying to get across.... Why rely on an outside source? Own the thread, provide all the data you collected and stand behind it. Now your coming across a defensive and by remarks like the one above. It's all in the presentation and you missed the boat here. Just look at it this way if you had all the real world proof that your product did what it was suppose to you wouldn't be able to keep up with the orders. It's almost like you shot yourself in the foot for poor marketing skills. Facts and data are the end all tell all. Simple as that.

I understand what you are saying but our shop is in a small community and if I want to test John Deere parts they will be lining up. We always have relied upon customer testing so not to seem bias. I guess it all depends on the way you look at it. Like you said facts and data will win out in the end just maybe a couple bumps in the road for now.

Thanks Again

newmoon · 02-27-2013, 08:20 AM

35/25 wow, when I installed my VMAX on my modded SS I felt virtually nothing in increased performance or better driveability. I never did dyno the differance but if it gained anything I would have been surprised.

WHAMMO · 02-27-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Exactly. 10 HP is believable and is what most people go with. Not 25.

10hp would be the best to expect from just a ported TB. I would expect less.. Some plp gain 0-7hp(back to back on LS3) with a FAST 102mm haha

Bo White · 02-27-2013, 09:01 AM

All I can give advise on is you better have your P's and Qs in order and your T's crossed and your i's dotted when you post up tests results above the norm around here. These guys will eat you alive if you dont......

Bo White · 02-27-2013, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Where's Bo White when you need him? Does he have a beacon or something like Batman that'll draw him to this thread?

Im not Batman or a superhero but get outta the way because......

R8cerX · 02-27-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

LS3 car?

How many psi?

Any other mods?

LS3 car, long tube headers, hi flow cats, twin fuel pumps, 65lb injectors

The base line run made 10.6 psi and after the install of the ported stock TB, the after run showed 10.3 psi.

R8cerX · 02-27-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 429

looking at the dips on the graph, that car has some serious tune/kr issues.

The dyno used is a Dyno Dynamics. It does NOT have graph smoothing like the Dynojets do...hence the graphs aren't smooth like the DJ graphs.

I am co-owner of the shop, we have been in business since 2001 and all we tune are domestics.

I understand that people are skeptical of relatively inexpensive parts making good power gains, that's exactly why I did a before and after dyno runs.

If you choose not to believe the results...no problem at all. Was just posting as an outside source.

R8cerX · 02-27-2013, 10:16 AM

We did a few pulls after the install of the TB. On the first run after the install, the tires spun on the dyno, so we let the car sit for about 10-15 minutes, did another run and had tire spin, so we tightened the car down a little more and tried to start the run a little lower on the RPM's.

I drove the car 10 minutes to get to work, then it took roughly 15 minutes to strap the car down, hook up sensors and then to do the initial pull. So I tried to make sure on each run the car would be at the same (or close) to the original temps.

Not trying to BS anyone here, just simply giving out some free info. Choose to use it or not.

02-27-2013, 06:44 AM	#31
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02-27-2013, 08:20 AM	#36
newmoon Drives: 2019 GT350 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC Posts: 3,232	35/25 wow, when I installed my VMAX on my modded SS I felt virtually nothing in increased performance or better driveability. I never did dyno the differance but if it gained anything I would have been surprised. __________________ 2019 GT350 RR 2013 Boss Mustang 2012 SRT Challenger 392 auto 12:40s 112 stock 2012 Ford Mustang 5.0. Brembo, 3:73s 2010 SS, LS3, Cammed, LTs, 12:20s 2004 Redfire Cobra, Pullied & Tuned 1986 GT, Ed Curtis 347ci, 11:20s motor. 10:30s 100-hp shot

02-27-2013, 09:01 AM	#38
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,094	All I can give advise on is you better have your P's and Qs in order and your T's crossed and your i's dotted when you post up tests results above the norm around here. These guys will eat you alive if you dont...... __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

02-27-2013, 10:16 AM	#42
R8cerX Drives: 2010 CamaroSS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Burlington NC Posts: 217	We did a few pulls after the install of the TB. On the first run after the install, the tires spun on the dyno, so we let the car sit for about 10-15 minutes, did another run and had tire spin, so we tightened the car down a little more and tried to start the run a little lower on the RPM's. I drove the car 10 minutes to get to work, then it took roughly 15 minutes to strap the car down, hook up sensors and then to do the initial pull. So I tried to make sure on each run the car would be at the same (or close) to the original temps. Not trying to BS anyone here, just simply giving out some free info. Choose to use it or not. __________________ Frank 10 Camaro Magnacharged- 585rwhp/585rwtq, full exhaust, Pedders Justice/ZL1 sway, Stoptech brakes and 21" 3 Pc. Forgeline wheels 99 Corvette- 502rwhp/460rwtq-402 N/A, 6pis/4pis brakes...fun track car

02-27-2013, 06:33 AM	#30
Scott@Bjorn3D Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eufaula, Alabama Posts: 6,427	Send one to Ted Jannetty, if he shows 25 gain you will sell thousands of them.