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Slickcas · 03-21-2013, 02:44 AM

At low speeds the SS does feel slower then what it is. When I put in the 3.91 gears it made the car feel 800 lbs lighter. 10 times more fun to drive. The car with 3.91s would get going from a stop with just lightly hitting the gas. I have the LS3 so I had 3.45s.

buckeyemike · 03-21-2013, 04:07 AM

Time to save your pennies for the Stingray.

Agent orange · 03-21-2013, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamZ

Sorry man not everyone can have a prodigy car like me

. Pushing 430 rwhp with just headers and a cai and no tune

Nice!

AdamZ · 03-21-2013, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent orange

Nice!

I think it was a generous dyno

Dupree878 · 03-21-2013, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HaulnJ

Gen5's are just so much smoother and better all around than previous Camaros. Maybe that's why it feels slow to you. I've owned a couple of 67's and an 88 IROC. I'll take the power, ride and looks of my 2010 anytime.

That's what I think. I've had several different performance cars and all were very rough and vicious compared to my Camaro.
Even my roommate's Jetta feels a lot faster and stronger when I drive it, but in actuality....well, lets just say he's never beat me to the neighborhood turn in from the intersection down the street

Bumblebee2012 · 03-21-2013, 05:18 AM

I got my 2012 last spring (LS3) and have been extremely underwhelmed by it from a seat of the pants point of view. I love the way it looks walking up to it, it looks look wide, mean and aggressive. Then you sit in it and pull away. The feel from the drivers seat is lame compared to the muscular look it gives a you look at it.

So, I'll be installing a supercharger in the upcoming weeks. That should help make the feel whole diving match the emotion while looking at it.

A year old, 2800 miles on it, willingly voiding the warranty. What is wrong with me?

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Scott@Bjorn3D · 03-21-2013, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Slickcas

At low speeds the SS does feel slower then what it is. When I put in the 3.91 gears it made the car feel 800 lbs lighter. 10 times more fun to drive. The car with 3.91s would get going from a stop with just lightly hitting the gas. I have the LS3 so I had 3.45s.

Cool, my 1LE rear end gets installed next week. Can't wait.

Agent orange · 03-21-2013, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

The biggest problem is the fact, they weigh almost two tons. I also think they should have come stock with 3:73 gear to help it get going.

Agree. It feels like very heavy on the 1st and 2nd gear.

newmoon · 03-21-2013, 07:44 AM

Before my 10-SS my prior car was a pullied 04 Cobra. When I purchased the SS I thought the car felt slow for having 426hp on the initial ride home. Within two weeks the mods began. Having been in a Challenger and now a 5.0 since then I can honestly say the SS was the slowest of the 3 in stock form.

SSDan · 03-21-2013, 08:42 AM

Here are the facts I have to offer. I dynoed mine at 4000 miles while stock for the heck of it = 366 rwhp. Then at 12,500 miles the stock baseline dyno before the cam install was 378 rwhp. Both runs on a Dynojet, different shops, similar conditions (temp, humidity - etc.). Why was it 12 hp higher? Finally broken in? Different dynos - different numbers? I've heard some experts say that dynojets don't vary that much from one to the other in the hands of competent operators. So maybe mine made more hp after more miles. Others will say - you can't compare numbers from different dynos.

You decide.

Here is my perspective on seat of the pants performance. When stock there were days I thought - what a slow pig. Then there were days - what a beast! I think it was as much my attitude as anything. One thing was a constant - the only times I thought - what a beast! - were when I showed it no mercy. High rev starts (usually from a roll in first) and banging the gears for all it was worth. I believe the sensation of power and performance is heightened the more noise and motion there is (loud exhaust, firm ride, low to the ground, vibrations coming up to the feet and hands). A full out assault not only got all those 426 horses fully involved but the sensations increased ( louder exhaust, more feedback from the road). Then it was a beast. If I rolled into the throttle with the rpms low - then the pig showed up. It bogged and did not feel like 426 hp.

Now with the cam/bolt-on package not only do I have more power (22% more than stock) but way more sensation (sights, sounds and smells) especially with the cutouts open! Its a beast all the time - even at idle.

Oldag · 03-21-2013, 09:13 AM

Any break in is going to occur in the first several hundred miles.

One factor may be the ECM "learning". I don't have enough knowledge of the programming to speak to this.

Cincy10SSRS · 03-21-2013, 09:20 AM

For the HP it has it does seem sluggish to me getting going most of the time but I chalk alot of it up to me apparently being a defective human being who will seemingly never be a decent stick driver.

gajagfan · 03-21-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bradshaw

Totally agree, I noticed it did seem to break in at about 8000 miles, but boy did it make a difference with headers and a tune!! Before I could barely spin the tires in 1st, now it will even chirp the tires in 3rd!! It is a completely different car, really woke it up.

I had a new 1993 Z/28 with auto, and at about 7,000 miles, it was as if the car became a whole new vehicle. Interesting that you experiences the same thing 20 years later. Can not wait to get my new one (7 more weeks)!

vroomapunk · 03-21-2013, 09:28 AM

Its heavy, and its probably way more insulated/refined suspension wise than your previous car.

Driving my dads 79 makes it feel like a rocket, cause its all thin metal, no insulation, you hear the engine exhaust a lot more, the suspension isnt nearly as nice so when you get on it it wants to rear back, etc.

The 5th gen camaro keeps the car planted better, puts the power where it needs to go, is smoother in delivering it, etc. The power is there, it just doesnt feel like cars used to

03-21-2013, 07:44 AM	#37
newmoon Drives: 2019 GT350 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC Posts: 3,232	Before my 10-SS my prior car was a pullied 04 Cobra. When I purchased the SS I thought the car felt slow for having 426hp on the initial ride home. Within two weeks the mods began. Having been in a Challenger and now a 5.0 since then I can honestly say the SS was the slowest of the 3 in stock form. __________________ 2019 GT350 RR 2013 Boss Mustang 2012 SRT Challenger 392 auto 12:40s 112 stock 2012 Ford Mustang 5.0. Brembo, 3:73s 2010 SS, LS3, Cammed, LTs, 12:20s 2004 Redfire Cobra, Pullied & Tuned 1986 GT, Ed Curtis 347ci, 11:20s motor. 10:30s 100-hp shot

03-21-2013, 08:42 AM	#38
SSDan Drives: 2016 1SS 6MT NPP Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Lake Murray, SC Posts: 2,261 View My Garage	Here are the facts I have to offer. I dynoed mine at 4000 miles while stock for the heck of it = 366 rwhp. Then at 12,500 miles the stock baseline dyno before the cam install was 378 rwhp. Both runs on a Dynojet, different shops, similar conditions (temp, humidity - etc.). Why was it 12 hp higher? Finally broken in? Different dynos - different numbers? I've heard some experts say that dynojets don't vary that much from one to the other in the hands of competent operators. So maybe mine made more hp after more miles. Others will say - you can't compare numbers from different dynos. You decide. Here is my perspective on seat of the pants performance. When stock there were days I thought - what a slow pig. Then there were days - what a beast! I think it was as much my attitude as anything. One thing was a constant - the only times I thought - what a beast! - were when I showed it no mercy. High rev starts (usually from a roll in first) and banging the gears for all it was worth. I believe the sensation of power and performance is heightened the more noise and motion there is (loud exhaust, firm ride, low to the ground, vibrations coming up to the feet and hands). A full out assault not only got all those 426 horses fully involved but the sensations increased ( louder exhaust, more feedback from the road). Then it was a beast. If I rolled into the throttle with the rpms low - then the pig showed up. It bogged and did not feel like 426 hp. Now with the cam/bolt-on package not only do I have more power (22% more than stock) but way more sensation (sights, sounds and smells) especially with the cutouts open! Its a beast all the time - even at idle. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS Hyper Blue 6MT NPP 2010 Camaro 2SS Cam/Headers/CAI/3.91 gears 476 rwhp/440 rwtq (sold) Last edited by SSDan; 03-21-2013 at 08:55 AM.

03-21-2013, 09:20 AM	#40
Cincy10SSRS Drives: 2010 2SS RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati area Posts: 1,522	For the HP it has it does seem sluggish to me getting going most of the time but I chalk alot of it up to me apparently being a defective human being who will seemingly never be a decent stick driver. __________________ Traded-in car: K&N Typhoon intake, JBA Shorty headers, Solo mid-pipes/hi-flow cats, GMPP Track Pack axle-back, Vmax ported TB, Billet Custom catch can, billet tensioner pulley, Hines Hex Vents, Z/TA rear spoiler, ProCustom headlight covers, Drake black/riveted quarter window covers, GM satin fuel door, chrome and brushed caps/covers under the hood, EmblemPros underhood bowtie & fuel rail "Camaro" plates, chrome "SS" door kick-panels, chrome trunk latch plate & strut rods, Street Scene lower grille ducts w/LED lights, front bowtie-delete, Yates Performance pedals, 35% tint, etc.

03-21-2013, 09:28 AM	#42
vroomapunk [COTW 5/12/14] Drives: 2012 CRT NF Cammed 2SS/RS For Sale Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NOLA Posts: 6,115 View My Garage	Its heavy, and its probably way more insulated/refined suspension wise than your previous car. Driving my dads 79 makes it feel like a rocket, cause its all thin metal, no insulation, you hear the engine exhaust a lot more, the suspension isnt nearly as nice so when you get on it it wants to rear back, etc. The 5th gen camaro keeps the car planted better, puts the power where it needs to go, is smoother in delivering it, etc. The power is there, it just doesnt feel like cars used to __________________

03-21-2013, 02:44 AM	#29
Slickcas Drives: 12' 2SS/RS LS3 IBM Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Odin. ILL Posts: 488 View My Garage	At low speeds the SS does feel slower then what it is. When I put in the 3.91 gears it made the car feel 800 lbs lighter. 10 times more fun to drive. The car with 3.91s would get going from a stop with just lightly hitting the gas. I have the LS3 so I had 3.45s.

03-21-2013, 04:07 AM	#30
buckeyemike Drives: 2012 Camaro LS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Scott AFB Posts: 597	Time to save your pennies for the Stingray.

03-21-2013, 05:18 AM	#34
Bumblebee2012 Drives: 2012 2SS TF3, 1971 Chevelle Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 840	I got my 2012 last spring (LS3) and have been extremely underwhelmed by it from a seat of the pants point of view. I love the way it looks walking up to it, it looks look wide, mean and aggressive. Then you sit in it and pull away. The feel from the drivers seat is lame compared to the muscular look it gives a you look at it. So, I'll be installing a supercharger in the upcoming weeks. That should help make the feel whole diving match the emotion while looking at it. A year old, 2800 miles on it, willingly voiding the warranty. What is wrong with me? Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2

03-21-2013, 09:13 AM	#39
Oldag Drives: 2013 2SS Convertible, LS3 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 361	Any break in is going to occur in the first several hundred miles. One factor may be the ECM "learning". I don't have enough knowledge of the programming to speak to this.