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Old 03-26-2013, 04:54 AM   #29
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the 1LE is definitely worth a look...no, you can't get it with an auto tranny, but it's easily one of the best-shifting cars i've ever driven. the wheels alone got me looking into the package, and then i discovered all the other upgrades. best bang for the buck, period.
the dual-mode exhaust is a must-have option from the factory unless you already love a particular aftermarket exhaust.
the mylink NAV option is also pretty well-done, although i haven't used it more than a couple times. but it is pretty cool that directions pop up in the hud.
also worth noting, when i got my quote from Geico there was no diff between a 2SS and 2SS/1LE...
obviously i don't race my car since there's no tracks/strips in hawaii but i've read a LOT of people saying that the 1LE is what the SS should've been all along (this is also my first camaro, btw).
so, there's my two cents...and the aftermarket is huge on these cars. modding is my new favorite hobby
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:33 AM   #30
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OP: you're 18... learn how to drive a manual, you don't know what you're missing once you get the hang of it. SO much more fun and involving than driving a manual.

As for your friends laughing for getting a Camaro.. Maybe time to change your friends too then.

And lastly, if you can afford it, and really want a 1LE over an SS, don't let anyone put you off. in the and, as has been said, it's YOUR car and you have to drive it.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:14 AM   #31
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He probably can't wait for the new one to drive down prices on the current one. The guy totaled his car, and since he's just 18 I assume he doesn't have another car that he can use until then.

That being said, you really can't go wrong with either the Mustang or the Camaro, despite what the fanboys will tell you. Just go with what you like best and can afford, as others have mentioned.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:26 AM   #32
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1LE is a nice package.
He admitted he doesn't know how to drive a stick.

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Can I get an automatic 1LE?

**Also, before people start a bash thread....I wasn't the cause of my car being totaled...some girl ran a red light and hit me coming off a green light on my way home from work
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:39 AM   #33
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He admitted he doesn't know how to drive a stick.



No, you cannot.



No, he cannot.

I thought I read that it was available in auto, my bad. Stick is more fun anyway. Anyone can learn manual with a little practice.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:52 AM   #34
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As the owner of 08 mustang and a 11 camaro, I have to say the Camaro kills the mustang in every way. I know things have changed from 08 to now, but my 08 seemed so poorly built, everything about it screamed cheap to me, and of course how underpowered it was compared to my Camaro (I know this has been fixed now).

Also, I thought I had totaled my Mustang, too. It looked just like yours, and they did not total it out. They repaired it. At the time of the wreck, it was worth around $18k, they spent over $12k to rebuild it. Never made any sense to me. Then, a few months after I got it back, a log truck drove over the front corner (made the turn at an intersection too short, kept going) of it and ripped the side off almost. Again, insurance paid to have it fixed. There were more repair cost sunk into that car than it was ever worth. So, just because you think they'll total it, that's not always the case. But I really hope you get a Camaro!
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:54 AM   #35
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One thing to be forewarned about is that the aftermarket for 5th gen Camaros is severely priced gouged. You'd think you were owning a Corvette or a Ferrari with how bad the prices are blown out.

Something that costs about $17 for a Chevy Cruze is $150 for a Camaro - case in point:

LED Cruze Emblem - $16.99:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Cr...item3a7ae1bf77


LED Camaro Emblem - $149.95:
http://www.northamericantuning.com/C...p/nat-1242.htm




It truly is downright disgusting what people charge for aftermarket mods for the Camaro. But because it's the hot car right now, people bend over and take it. I, personally, can't stand it... While I love how much of a difference the Cold Air Inductions CAI made to my car and it truly is a quality product, I would never pay the $400+ for an intake again... I bought my SLP Intake for my 1994 Camaro for $250 brand new and that was considered expensive to the 4th gen crowd. The disgusting prices for aftermarket mods has severely limited my ability to mod my 5th gen.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:21 AM   #36
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One thing to be forewarned about is that the aftermarket for 5th gen Camaros is severely priced gouged. You'd think you were owning a Corvette or a Ferrari with how bad the prices are blown out.

Something that costs about $17 for a Chevy Cruze is $150 for a Camaro - case in point:

LED Cruze Emblem - $16.99:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Cr...item3a7ae1bf77


LED Camaro Emblem - $149.95:
http://www.northamericantuning.com/C...p/nat-1242.htm




It truly is downright disgusting what people charge for aftermarket mods for the Camaro. But because it's the hot car right now, people bend over and take it. I, personally, can't stand it... While I love how much of a difference the Cold Air Inductions CAI made to my car and it truly is a quality product, I would never pay the $400+ for an intake again... I bought my SLP Intake for my 1994 Camaro for $250 brand new and that was considered expensive to the 4th gen crowd. The disgusting prices for aftermarket mods has severely limited my ability to mod my 5th gen.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:44 AM   #37
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One thing you might consider is that as far as I remember, there are two different V8's for the Camaro, one that comes with the automatic (L99) and one that comes with the manual (LS3).
The LS3 has just a touch more horsepower but has a manual trans.
The L99 on the other hand incorpoates what they refer to as AFM or Active Fuel Management where the engine de-activates 4 of the cylinders under low-load conditions. The problem is that the transistion between the modes can be very annoying for some people.

My 2011 was a Manual with the LS3, so I have no direct experiance of the L99/AFM, but perhaps others will chime in.

Also, the tires that come on the SS are SUMMER tires that lose their traction when the temps fall below 50 degree or so. Just a heads-up.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:53 AM   #38
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My girl friend has 13 gt I have 10 ss. To mr the camaro handles better and pulls harder on the bottom to 5k rpms. The gt feels like it makes more the higher u rev it. Feels like the back end wants to come around more than the ss
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:54 AM   #39
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Camaro is a good car. If you don't need leather, you can save yourself a decent amount of money by switching to a 1SS instead of the 2SS. The "1" packages (1SS, 1LT) have cloth interior. The "2" packages (2SS, 2LT) have leather. SS are all V8 models. LS and LT models have V6. The RS package adds only a few options to the SS. Halo head lights, fog lamps are replaced with DTRs, and roof molding is body colored. 1LE package changes suspension, wheels and tires, manual tranny with different gears and 3.91 rear end gears. If you want to go auto instead of learning to drive manual, you can always change out the parts to make the auto preform as well as a 1LE, but you'll spend twice as much to get it there then what the 1LE package costs. You can also look at used, but you won't find a used 1LE. And the 2010's don't have the HUD, not sure about 2011.

I have a 2010 1SS manual without the RS package. I didn't need any of the options that came in the 2SS or the RS. The 1LE wasn't offerred when I got it. I didn't need any of those options, because I have or will be replacing everything that I would have gotten anyway. I like to customize my cars lightly to make them different. I've done aftermarket wheels, and stripes already and I plan to do the interior some day soon. Nothing extreme on it. Just leather and suede in colors that match the exterior, which was never available from GM.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:58 AM   #40
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Welcome to the DARKSIDE! I have owned approx. 12-13 Mustangs from basic GT's to Cobras & Saleens. I bought My SS in Sept. of 09 on a whime and can tell you, I've never looked back. When I bought the car I honestly gave it a year! Now I can't think of anything else in its price range I would want to drive other than maybe getting into a Raptor or something....
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:00 AM   #41
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I suppose the nice thing to say would be 'get whatever car makes you happy' however Im gonna be honest here and say get the Camaro it's the best car ever!!!!! There is nothing you cant buy after market for the 5th gen. The options out there are absolutely amazing. My favorite aftermarket company is Apex Motorsports.
And don't worry about your friends. They just have Camaro Envy :P
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Old 03-26-2013, 01:50 PM   #42
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Totaled my 2011 Mustang this past Friday night, not confirmed with insurance but there is no hope for the thing. Frame is split and crumpled and the whole front end has to be replaced/rebuild.

**Before people start a bash thread....I wasn't the cause of my car being totaled...some girl ran a red light and hit me coming off a green light on my way home from work**

So, with that I am now in search for another transportation device.

Went to the Ford dealer and got in a 6 Speed 2013 Mustang GT (5.0), learned I can't drive that....so I took a automatic 2013 5.0 on the highway. Honestly, the only difference I felt was heavier steering and a slight kick upon hitting the gas in the 5.0. If I closed my ears I would have thought I was back in my 2011 V6.

Just off whim I drove my rental truck to the GM dealership to look at Camaros, just to make myself love the Mustang even more. Figured they were crap, like we all know they are.

Got into an automatic 2013 2SS/RS and took it for a trip down the freeway....holy chit I couldn't believe what happened..... I fell in love with the Camaro. It pushed me back with every gear change, traction control came on during acceleration, the HUD is not cheap like I thought it was, the steering wheel is nice, and the NAV is good.

I still can't believe that I walked out loving that car, but **** it is good.

I don't want a Camaro....my friends would laugh at me....but it was so good.

I am now looking for a 2SS/RS.

Is the Camaro SS really better than a 5.0, or is it just in my mind?


Go for the Camaro! It would be the best decision you have ever made. You can even check out our competitive comparison guide here:

http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/compa...odel&year=2013


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