Side Airbag deployment with No accident

[ninjamaster5000]

Originally Posted by GVA 45TH 2SS

So the cars sensor detected a strong change in direction and that is a flaw?
The side curtains are not just there to detect a rollover. what if that change in direction was caused by someone running a stoplight and t-boning your car?
do you really think the sensors are defective?
the recent Key FOB recall is a result of people lawyering up. GM is paranoid over Bad press and car defects. I doubt any judge will say that airbags deployed as a result of someone taking a corner too hard at excessive speed is a defect.

Another car of at least 3000lb T-boning a car is a much greater force than turning left then right quickly. wasn't driving the car nearly as hard as that drifting video where the camaro airbags deployed. The sensors are telling the airbags to deploy at too low of a sideways force.

And yes, it is defective. Just because it happened to me on a track doesn't mean that's the only place it can happen. It's actually good that this happened in a controlled environment, and I just ran off into the grass after my engine cut off. people have to swerve to avoid accidents sometimes. With a camaro, the side curtains deploy and the engine cuts off.

I didn't expect this from a performance car (btw this happened to a 1LE too). The car can't take a few g's without popping airbags. i feel like i'm driving a poser car.

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Justice

The curtain airbag deployed as it was supposed to. Not just from an impact, but DYNAMIC MOVEMENT. A recall is not needed as all car makers (Chevy, Ford, Honda, etc) do the same thing. Not to mention IF you hire an attorney, GM can download your driving behavior at the time of deployment (stored in cars black box). It def sucks, but when you play sometimes you have to pay.

GM cannot "download" that info just because you hired an attorney. The only way for someone to get that info is if you give them permission or if a court issues a warrant for it.

[JCunningham]

call your state senator or assemblyman about it. Insurance should cover it. Air bags should not be going off unless you hit something. They should be using the same sensors they use in the front. These sensors are going off just having fun with a muscle car. Just because someone is racing at the time or doing donuts doesnt mean his air bags should go off. How dumb is gm if they think no ones going to put the car to its max going around corners or racing.

[Z28bryan]

The air bag deployed as it was intended to. Something that does what it was intended to do is not defective.


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[JCunningham]

who cares if they download the info. There's nothing saying he cant do donuts or swerve. around as much as you want. So I guess some off you would be ok if the car explodes at 100mph. Your justification is he shouldn't be driving his car to its capabilities.

[ratfinkharley]

Originally Posted by JCunningham

call your state senator or assemblyman about it. Insurance should cover it. Air bags should not be going off unless you hit something. They should be using the same sensors they use in the front. These sensors are going off just having fun with a muscle car. Just because someone is racing at the time or doing donuts doesnt mean his air bags should go off. How dumb is gm if they think no ones going to put the car to its max going around corners or racing.

Different sensors are used on the side. Reaction and deployment times need to be quicker due to less of a side crush zone. And insurance will likely not cover it if the incident occurred during racing.

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd...ceed/00221.pdf

[JCunningham]

the air bag is supposed to deploy in a accident. he wasn't in a accident he was just driving the car around and swerved. So no it did not deploy as it was supposed to.

[ninjamaster5000]

Originally Posted by Z28bryan

The air bag deployed as it was intended to. Something that does what it was intended to do is not defective.


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sounds exactly like the woman at the dealership. No one considers that what it's intended to do is wrong in itself. The engineers should change the design spec.
Otherwise the camaro is nothing but a death trap posing as a sports car.

[JCunningham]

o i did not see that it happened on the track but still Gm should know that these cars are going to see the track donuts and animals or debri in the road.

[JCunningham]

ya you didnt crash so you were driving the car at or below its capabilities. The Airbags should not be going off at a g force at or below the cars capabilities.

[Sheriff Justice]

OP I feel for you, that's a $3K expense I'm sure you were not expecting that day (maybe a $200 blown tire). If you hire an attorney due to 'defective equipment' than GM can challenge that and download your driving behavior at time of deployment from the black box. They will clearly see you were not driving the vehicle 'under recommended / normal operation'.

A curtain airbag deploying on a race track is not the same as driving down Main Street @ 45mph and swerving hard to avoid a deer.

[JCunningham]

ok how about driving down the interstate at 75 and swerving to avoid a deer. He was still driving at or under the capabilities of his car. Should his front airbags go off if he locks up his brakes? Bottom line is airbags should not be going off unless you are in a accident. because the air bags going off can cause a accident. the reason gm has not recalled this is because no one has been in a accident yet because of this or they didnt try to suit gm because of it.

[Brandonmos]

my car is literally prided by GM for its sideways G- potential grip. Are you going to seriously argue that with 1LE TOUTED BY GM AS A TRACK CAR AND ENCOURAGED TO BE TRACKED AGAINST COMPETITION an airbag deployment on a particularly lively course is acceptable? No. Its not. not even a little.

btw i see how accurate that yaw sensor is. my hill assists engages on an 0* incline/slope military AIRFIELD. PERFECTLY LEVEL SURFACE.

[McRat]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Justice

The curtain airbag deployed as it was supposed to. Not just from an impact, but DYNAMIC MOVEMENT. A recall is not needed as all car makers (Chevy, Ford, Honda, etc) do the same thing. Not to mention IF you hire an attorney, GM can download your driving behavior at the time of deployment (stored in cars black box). It def sucks, but when you play sometimes you have to pay.

BS.

You really think an airbag should deploy at 1 g?

Serious injuries don't happen until 25g+.

AutoX is driving on normal asphalt with DOT tires at legal speeds.

Your opinion might change if you swerve to avoid a collision and your airbags deploy and seriously cripple your passenger.

Airbags are to keep you alive (usually when you drive stupidly on the street), the are NOT designed to protect you from injury. I've know several people who have lost eyes or worse from airbags. And you know they have killed babies and children right? They can't sue.