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rmpackers · 08-11-2009, 02:35 PM

"I definately would not be as cavalier about the situation as you would be.. The last car I had bought brand new that had to have the bumper re-painted because the dealer screwed up, 5 years later the paint is peeling and looks like crap.. Have them order a new bumper from the factory already painted or don't accept the car. Plain and simple.."[/QUOTE]

I really should 'splain myself better. The "bumper" was just that black plastic thing that covers the lower rear. He said the top part was shattered. He pulled the one off the Rally Yellow they bought because they are all the same on the RS at least. He would not have even needed to tell us, but he is an upright guy and his name is on the dealership! The chip on the hood is not noticeable without a microscope, but they are repainting the entire hood. And if your paint is peeling after 5 years, somebody ain't doin something right.

mcrizz · 08-11-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AMERICANMADE

If I were you I would let them fix the car and drive home happy. If you are expecting a discount for the car then why would you expect it to be corrected also? Either fix it and purchase, or negotiate a discount and fix it yourself. You don't get it both ways, Sorry.

because he hit another car so it legally has to be reported (not a new car) and paint never matches exactly every time i see a car with a door or bymper that has been repainted it easy to tell the difference.

rmpackers · 08-11-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

Why wouldn't the paint match? I am sure your dealer has re-painted much more expensive cars. But if it doesn't match, there is a thing called warranty that comes with every new car.
Listen, do not sweat the small stuff. This is truly small stuff. Let them fix it and they will. The car is the dealer's car, not yours. They can fix it any way they want and if you don't like it, they'll just call the next guy who has been waiting for a Camaro to pick it up. Like someone said, had you not known about the damage, and they fixed it and you go pick it up, you will never know anything happened. Enjoy it, it is still a brand new car.

greenrail · 08-11-2009, 02:48 PM

I think we need to be careful about what is and isn't legally applicable as far as what a dealer must disclose as damage to any given vehicle. Various State/Provincial laws apply to what is called "disclosure."

In many cases, it is based on a percentage of the value of a given vehicle. If it is under that percentage (i.e. 10%, 20% ... or what ever the law defines) then the dealer doesn't have to disclose anything.

It will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Minor scrapes or dents that are easily repairable, are really not something about which I would get concerned. It is when you exceed a certain threshold level as defined by various consumer protection laws that I would take pause at a given purchase.

THere was an article in this weekends paper about an inidividual who had taken delivery of a vehicle and found what amounted to a barely noticable scratch on the bumper. (Something which a professional detailer or paint person could easily fix. They were threatening to sue the dealer even though he acknowledged the fact that he missed the scratch at the time of accepting delivery of the car.

Legal threats run wild! - See the ads on late night cable! LOL

montej23 · 08-11-2009, 02:56 PM

Have the item replaced and painted from factory

Jamie Mac · 08-11-2009, 03:00 PM

Nobody here wants to buy a brand new damaged car. Chances are that a lot of us already have. Usually most of us get a car off the lot in which case any damage has already been repaired. My car was damaged on the trunklid and spoiler and repaired prior to my dealer getting it. Never could tell until we scuffed it for stripes. You could look at my spoiler and probably not tell but if I show you the spot you will see it. It's all good. I'm happy and it drives great!

2010SLVRBULIT · 08-11-2009, 03:06 PM

If it were me, I'd just have them fix it like new. Otherwise, they could care less if you are the one buying it, since there's probably a waiting list...Wait again if you want to, it's your wait...

wirebender · 08-11-2009, 03:18 PM

I hate this happened to you man, at least you were there and they couldn't "hide " it from you.
wait.....you only had to wait 3 months?????? WTF!! LOL
To be sure they'll fix it right and treat you right.....the mechanic will probably give you free house calls for life! I can just imagine how embarrassed he is.

35th02ss · 08-11-2009, 04:18 PM

I would let them fix it and make your decision then. if the dealer did a good job and you don't notice it take the car. Maybe even get a little price break on it..

bluman · 08-11-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 35th02ss

I would let them fix it and make your decision then. if the dealer did a good job and you don't notice it take the car. Maybe even get a little price break on it..

best advice in this thread

You waited long enough for the car, don't let others sway you with their assinine comments, you AND only you decide !

ravensjeff · 08-11-2009, 04:29 PM

Let em fix it, and give you a nice new shiny Chrome Camaro liscense plate frame and a case of Heineken.
Forget asking for a discount- won't happen. They can sell these cars right now for over msrp.

Orange ss crush · 08-11-2009, 04:43 PM

I would ask for two of his best mechanics and blast them in the nutz then tell them to get back to work with bruised balls.

It happens and hey its a small issue - I know I know its easy for me to say - You will be more happy driving the thing. I drove a camaro rental last week and it had a passenger dent real bad - It gave it a oh sh** moment for the people at the stop lights but heck I was driving the new camaro. It won't matter and no-one will know the difference. You got five dollars and I won't tell anyone. LOL

Enjoy the car when its fixed!!!!

Ghost Rider · 08-11-2009, 04:47 PM

I'm wondering, if you don't take it, will they fix it and sell it off the lot without ever disclosing that its been damaged? I bet they will.

I would demand they fix it and reduce the price by $2K. Otherwise, order another one and tell the dealer that you're going to let the ultimate purchaser know that it was damaged.

SSOOCH · 08-11-2009, 04:48 PM

news flash dudes, there is now way your dealer would be able to get a bumper from the factory painted. It just will not happen! Believe me I tried. When my wife's 2008 HHR SS came in, it had problems with the paint on the rear bumper. I pissed and moaned and ran it all the way to the top of GM to get a new bumper sent from the factory. It's not going to happen. Period. Save your energy, have them paint it, you'll be fine. Or if it bothers you that much, order a new car. It's not worth the stress Bro.

08-11-2009, 02:35 PM	#29
rmpackers Ride this Chevy Drives: 2010 RJT RS Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 1,575	"I definately would not be as cavalier about the situation as you would be.. The last car I had bought brand new that had to have the bumper re-painted because the dealer screwed up, 5 years later the paint is peeling and looks like crap.. Have them order a new bumper from the factory already painted or don't accept the car. Plain and simple.."[/QUOTE] I really should 'splain myself better. The "bumper" was just that black plastic thing that covers the lower rear. He said the top part was shattered. He pulled the one off the Rally Yellow they bought because they are all the same on the RS at least. He would not have even needed to tell us, but he is an upright guy and his name is on the dealership! The chip on the hood is not noticeable without a microscope, but they are repainting the entire hood. And if your paint is peeling after 5 years, somebody ain't doin something right. __________________ NFL OWNR I love the smell of new car in the morning!

08-11-2009, 02:48 PM	#32
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,392	I think we need to be careful about what is and isn't legally applicable as far as what a dealer must disclose as damage to any given vehicle. Various State/Provincial laws apply to what is called "disclosure." In many cases, it is based on a percentage of the value of a given vehicle. If it is under that percentage (i.e. 10%, 20% ... or what ever the law defines) then the dealer doesn't have to disclose anything. It will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Minor scrapes or dents that are easily repairable, are really not something about which I would get concerned. It is when you exceed a certain threshold level as defined by various consumer protection laws that I would take pause at a given purchase. THere was an article in this weekends paper about an inidividual who had taken delivery of a vehicle and found what amounted to a barely noticable scratch on the bumper. (Something which a professional detailer or paint person could easily fix. They were threatening to sue the dealer even though he acknowledged the fact that he missed the scratch at the time of accepting delivery of the car. Legal threats run wild! - See the ads on late night cable! LOL __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

08-11-2009, 03:00 PM	#34
Jamie Mac NCM-WINR Drives: 2010 SS/RS IOM 2014 2LT Stingray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,324	Nobody here wants to buy a brand new damaged car. Chances are that a lot of us already have. Usually most of us get a car off the lot in which case any damage has already been repaired. My car was damaged on the trunklid and spoiler and repaired prior to my dealer getting it. Never could tell until we scuffed it for stripes. You could look at my spoiler and probably not tell but if I show you the spot you will see it. It's all good. I'm happy and it drives great! __________________ also drives a heavily modified Jeep Wrangler. It has LED headlights and wheel weights blacked out with Plasti Dip. It's Baller.

08-11-2009, 04:29 PM	#39
ravensjeff 100% Chevy & Harley Man Drives: 2010 2SS: Blown LSX 376-B15 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eldersburg,MD Posts: 2,211 View My Garage	Let em fix it, and give you a nice new shiny Chrome Camaro liscense plate frame and a case of Heineken. Forget asking for a discount- won't happen. They can sell these cars right now for over msrp. __________________ LSX 376-B15, TVS2300 SC, Harland Sharp Rockers w/ Trunion Bearings, ATI Balancer/keyed, AR LT Headers/Borla Catback Exhaust, DSS 1400 HP Axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, 3.70, Hotchkis Springs/Sway bars, Forgeline SO3P Aluminum Wheels (20x9.5 F/20x11 R)w/ Hidden Titanium Hardware, Nitto NT05 Tires (27540ZR20 F/31535ZR20 R), Billet LPE brake/gas pedals, Escort 9500ci Radar Detector Laser Jammer, Roto Fab CAI with Ice Silver box, Carbon fiber tube/MAF Housing Assy, LPE Aluminum coil covers, SS9 Sleeper Fiber Glass Hood (ACS), Carbotech 1521 ceramic brake pads, Elite catch can.

08-11-2009, 04:43 PM	#40
Orange ss crush Its all in the paint Drives: 2010 IOM SS2 Black Stripes Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ofallon, MO Posts: 254	I would ask for two of his best mechanics and blast them in the nutz then tell them to get back to work with bruised balls. It happens and hey its a small issue - I know I know its easy for me to say - You will be more happy driving the thing. I drove a camaro rental last week and it had a passenger dent real bad - It gave it a oh sh** moment for the people at the stop lights but heck I was driving the new camaro. It won't matter and no-one will know the difference. You got five dollars and I won't tell anyone. LOL Enjoy the car when its fixed!!!! __________________ SS2/ Sunroof/20" polished rims IOM with black stripe - IOM interior Order Placed 5/20/09 sitting at 1100

08-11-2009, 02:56 PM	#33
montej23 Drives: 2011 VR Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 974 View My Garage	Have the item replaced and painted from factory

08-11-2009, 03:06 PM	#35
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,525 View My Garage	If it were me, I'd just have them fix it like new. Otherwise, they could care less if you are the one buying it, since there's probably a waiting list...Wait again if you want to, it's your wait...

08-11-2009, 03:18 PM	#36
wirebender Drives: 2017 ZL1, A10, White, sunroof, nav Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Garner, NC Posts: 720 View My Garage	I hate this happened to you man, at least you were there and they couldn't "hide " it from you. wait.....you only had to wait 3 months?????? WTF!! LOL To be sure they'll fix it right and treat you right.....the mechanic will probably give you free house calls for life! I can just imagine how embarrassed he is.

08-11-2009, 04:18 PM	#37
35th02ss Drives: 02 SS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wallops Island, VA Posts: 760 View My Garage	I would let them fix it and make your decision then. if the dealer did a good job and you don't notice it take the car. Maybe even get a little price break on it..

08-11-2009, 04:47 PM	#41
Ghost Rider I'm one bad Mamma Jamma Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NC Posts: 396	I'm wondering, if you don't take it, will they fix it and sell it off the lot without ever disclosing that its been damaged? I bet they will. I would demand they fix it and reduce the price by $2K. Otherwise, order another one and tell the dealer that you're going to let the ultimate purchaser know that it was damaged. __________________ I dare you to challenge my BRUTE! http://ghost-rider-5.mybrute.com DELIVERED on August 25, 2009- 2010 2SS/RS, Yellow, A6, VIN # 34902 DELIVERED on September 9, 2009 -Custom Bumblebee Stripes and engine cover. DELIVERED on September 10, 2009 - Painted GFX

08-11-2009, 04:48 PM	#42
SSOOCH Camaro SL,UTs Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,357 View My Garage	news flash dudes, there is now way your dealer would be able to get a bumper from the factory painted. It just will not happen! Believe me I tried. When my wife's 2008 HHR SS came in, it had problems with the paint on the rear bumper. I pissed and moaned and ran it all the way to the top of GM to get a new bumper sent from the factory. It's not going to happen. Period. Save your energy, have them paint it, you'll be fine. Or if it bothers you that much, order a new car. It's not worth the stress Bro. __________________