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HuJass · 01-25-2016, 10:56 PM

Why is it that almost all the 5th gen T/A conversions are done up as later 2nd gen T/As while the 5th gen is clearly an homage to the 1st gen F-body.
Why aren't there more 1st gen inspired Firebird conversions?

motorhead · 01-25-2016, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HuJass

Why is it that almost all the 5th gen T/A conversions are done up as later 2nd gen T/As while the 5th gen is clearly an homage to the 1st gen F-body.
Why aren't there more 1st gen inspired Firebird conversions?

They did. Also a GTO

suzook · 01-26-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gearheaded

2000 Trans Am owner here, miss my car :(

I do like the Camaro though, I think it is a work of art. Both were very good in my opinion.

I agree with the comment that they should have made a GMC version and released it, but with Camaro sales so high it was better that they spent the money and R&D on new versions like the z/28 and ZL1.

Plus I'm a Corvette guy at heart.

Here's mine:

Loved this model trans am! HATED the same gen camaro.

motorhead · 01-26-2016, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by suzook

Loved this model trans am! HATED the same gen camaro.

AGREE.

Dimitrim · 01-26-2016, 12:09 PM

The fourth gen Firebirds were great looking cars. I had a 2002 Black Firebird ragtop that gave me wood every time I looked at it and drove it.

I really do miss Pontiac....

Abomb1223 · 01-26-2016, 02:56 PM

Id give my left testicle for a low miles 2002 trans am ws6. Was very close to bidding last weekend at mecum.

TooCool5 · 01-26-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chasmanian

I would have bought a firebird. Most of my previous cars were Pontiac and I had a third gen firebird for years. Loved it. I'll be honest, if I had the money to burn, I'd even do one of the conversion kits.

I own two Pontiac Bonnevilles, you can't kill em.

PalmerGA · 01-26-2016, 04:33 PM

We didn't need a Firebird back in '67... and we don't need one now. Camaro rules!!!!

FenwickHockey65 · 01-26-2016, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Driver

Does anyone here wish that GM kept Pontiac instead of Buick?

Does anyone else feel that GM made a big mistake when they got rid of the Pontiac brand?

No. Pontiac had no future with the new GM.

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Originally Posted by GMTool

I would rather see Pontiac than Buick. I read somewhere that it's got something to do with foreign sales. For us here in the good old USA, who needs both Cadillac and Buick. I would have bought a Firebird.

And this viewpoint is how you fail at being a successful automaker.

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Originally Posted by BMR Sales

I both agree & disagree.

Buick is huge in China and that is what saved them. Pontiac was not.

However, in the end Pontiac had a Nice Line-up. The GTO (actually looked like a big Cobalt) was a Great Car. The G-8 I think was a fantastic looking sedan and with the Ls Motor was a screamer. The New Chevy SS is basically an upgraded G-8. Pontiac even had the Holden Ute slated to be in the lineup. Then they had the Solstice ( even made a Hardtop Version).

When the economy took a crap, something had to give. GM had already killed off Oldsmobile so Pontiac, Hummer, Saab and Saturn got the Axe. Should have been GMC in my opinion!

Negative. GMC = money printing machine for GM. Plus it actually has an overseas market unlike Pontiac.

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Originally Posted by ritchet

I was selling cars at Saturn when went it out. Our dealer then went to Saab, good idea!. Saab tried to make it as an independent for awhile but GM would not let it happen.

Either Pontiac or Chevy had to go, and it wasn't going to be Chevy. Buick or Olds, the same..etc.. Never understood why GM sold competing products.

Why they have GMC compete with Chevy is still a mystery. There is so much money made on trucks that they can get away with it. I want a new Silverado but I just can't justify the price.

You answered your own question.

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

^^^ This and I'll ad, the G6 was also a very popular car. I buy Pontiac's all the time for our car lot, it is as reliable as any other GM car. They sell as good as anything else. Just role GMC into Cadillac, look at all the models they have, why have 2 very expensive brands?

Here is a car I saw at the last car show I attended. A lot of people looked at it and it sounded great. The last Pontiac that I owned was a '74 Trans Am, had some mods, that car was a blast to drive!

Cadillac literally has only one model that is remotely similar to any GMC product, and that's Escalade. And that may be changing in the future with the crossover-heavy focus Cadillac's gearing up for.

G6 was popular artificially, especially towards the end of its model run. GM dumped a ton of them into fleet, it was basically the W-body Impala Limited of its era.

Cheetoh · 01-27-2016, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Abomb1223

Id give my left testicle for a low miles 2002 trans am ws6. Was very close to bidding last weekend at mecum.

I got a 2000 Firehawk with 17,000 miles I'm thinking about selling...

kmdracer · 01-27-2016, 02:41 AM

Okay.. for what it's worth...as for the f-body, had GM made one like the lingenfelter, I'd be all over it. As an owner (NEW) of a 4th and a 5th Gen (used) 2nd genf body, the firebirds/ Trans ams, were over priced. When I bought my 99 Z28, the same Trans Am was +$1,000. Similar to the other poster... GMC truck or Chevy.....same, but guess which one costs more. Also, marketing (specifically the lack of) killed the 4th Gen f bodies, as well as the rest of Pontiac. Think about it... when was the last time you saw an advert for anything GM other than a truck or a Vette?

motorhead · 01-27-2016, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PalmerGA

We didn't need a Firebird back in '67... and we don't need one now. Camaro rules!!!!

First gens and the 1970 Z/28 are the only years that I liked the Camaro version better.

Without the Trans Am it would have been smokey and this guy.

oreduks · 01-27-2016, 08:08 AM

2015 SEMA

Ragnar · 01-28-2016, 09:43 AM

Saw this last night, someones is feeling the love for a Trans Am. Never, thought I would see the day when this car brought this money!

01-25-2016, 10:56 PM	#29
HuJass Drives: GM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CNY Posts: 1,599 View My Garage	Why is it that almost all the 5th gen T/A conversions are done up as later 2nd gen T/As while the 5th gen is clearly an homage to the 1st gen F-body. Why aren't there more 1st gen inspired Firebird conversions? __________________ 2015 Camaro 1LE 2009 Challenger R/T 2007 Solstice GXP 2004 Colorado ZQ8 2002 Trans Am WS6 Collector Edition 1999 Blazer 1994 Grand Prix SE B4U

01-26-2016, 04:33 PM	#36
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,754 View My Garage	We didn't need a Firebird back in '67... and we don't need one now. Camaro rules!!!! __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)

01-27-2016, 02:41 AM	#39
kmdracer Drives: 2015 black 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wharton, Texas Posts: 130	Okay.. for what it's worth...as for the f-body, had GM made one like the lingenfelter, I'd be all over it. As an owner (NEW) of a 4th and a 5th Gen (used) 2nd genf body, the firebirds/ Trans ams, were over priced. When I bought my 99 Z28, the same Trans Am was +$1,000. Similar to the other poster... GMC truck or Chevy.....same, but guess which one costs more. Also, marketing (specifically the lack of) killed the 4th Gen f bodies, as well as the rest of Pontiac. Think about it... when was the last time you saw an advert for anything GM other than a truck or a Vette? __________________ 2015 Black 1SS 1LE.

01-27-2016, 08:08 AM	#41
oreduks Drives: 2014 Camaro 2LT/RS Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 100 View My Garage	2015 SEMA Last edited by oreduks; 03-01-2016 at 09:29 PM.

01-28-2016, 09:43 AM	#42
Ragnar Destroyed by flooding Drives: Wife's car Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 4,672	Saw this last night, someones is feeling the love for a Trans Am. Never, thought I would see the day when this car brought this money! Attached Images __________________

01-26-2016, 12:09 PM	#33
Dimitrim Dimitri Drives: 68 GTO 455 Ram Air; 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Novato, California Posts: 602 View My Garage	The fourth gen Firebirds were great looking cars. I had a 2002 Black Firebird ragtop that gave me wood every time I looked at it and drove it. I really do miss Pontiac....

01-26-2016, 02:56 PM	#34
Abomb1223 Drives: 2011 Camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,086	Id give my left testicle for a low miles 2002 trans am ws6. Was very close to bidding last weekend at mecum.