Attn Law enforcement and Lawyer ppl or ppl with knowledge of law. is this a threat

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by Banshee

Unless she has one hell of a milkshake!

no milk shake is worth it, there's always something better.

[songsj]

Her father will be sitting on the front porch cleaning a shot gun (dont even own one right now but will be buying on soon) lol,& when the kid drives up * comes to get her, her brother will be coming out of the back yard in cover alls.

"Pa We are running outta room back there"

My hsuband would say
"what time you bringing my little girl home? I dont have issues going back to prison"

lol

And then I suppose you'll start to play a banjo and smile with black teeth.

[duder4thgen]

You have two options- either stand up, grab your man-parts, and face any potential consequences as they happen; or stop hanging out with her.

Don't get the police involved, it isnt your place. If he hasnt done anything directly to you, then you have no right to go screwing with their family life like that. Unless there is obvious evidence that he is physically harming her, then she needs to deal with it herself.

Douche or not, that is his step-daughter, and you have no 'right' to her; whether the douche likes you or not.

[garcmol]

Sounds like he doesn't want his little girl to get hurt. You'll understand one day.

[cam2fst4u]

I could be wrong but if the "father" hasn't said this to you then she might be making it up...

[wrek]

you're in HS? I'd say, move on to the next girl.. about 2% of these HS relationships end up being life-long...

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by duder4thgen

You have two options- either stand up, grab your man-parts, and face any potential consequences as they happen; or stop hanging out with her.

Agreed. If you can't face the consequences, you aren't ready to be doing anything. Period.
- X

[jrboyd_1980]

Originally Posted by G.E.

Ok, this girl and I are good friends and went out for a while and her stepdad is a real douche. He is also the janitor at our school... Anyway he has always made little threats to her about me... but never directly to me. The most recent threat, I guess that is what this is called, is when she was telling him about my car. He said that if he ever caught her in it that he would smash the window, pull her out and then beat me... Now to me this is pretty disturbing. My question is, can anything be done about this..

additional info: Past threats are kind of like if i ever see him touch you i will brake his (my) hand... Like I said he has never directly threatened me but he is always telling her little things that he'd do to me.

That is legally defined as assault. It is illegal. Battery is if he actually lays his hands on you.

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by jrboyd_1980

That is legally defined as assault. It is illegal. Battery is if he actually lays his hands on you.

I thought in order for it to be assault it had to be directly to him? Didn't think saying it to his daughter and her relaying it would count - especially since, in my experience, high school girls tend to blow things considerably out of proportion.
- X

[texan]

I'm a dad. I will encourage my daughter not to ride in fast cars with boys whenever possible but it will ulitmately be her call. If I don't like the guy I might show some hate too. Be nice to the old man, if you don't feel strongly about her move on.

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by jrboyd_1980

That is legally defined as assault. It is illegal. Battery is if he actually lays his hands on you.

The "assault" occurs when a person in proximity of the threat AND that threat caused fear. If I hear Joe will beat the crap out of Mike and I tell Mike and then goes to the police, that is hearsay. All Mike has to do is deny he said that. Same holds true for first person. Mike tells Joe he will beat his ass. Do you have an assault, or do you have "threats"? You have by definition, an assault.

How many cases have you heard this....Joe hears from Tom that Mike threatened to beat Joes ass, serves jail time.

None in my 21 year L.E. career.

Here is a legal definition.

What is assault?

Assault is a threatened or attempted physical attack against another by a person who appears to have the ability to cause bodily harm. The threat must cause apprehension or fear of immediate harm in the victim. For example, if someone is holding a knife and says, "I'm going to cut you," that's an assault. But, if the person says, "I'm going to get a knife, find you, and cut you," that threat isn't an assault because the threat is not immediate.

As in the OP, the poster heard the fathers threat through her stepfather towards the poster..the last part pretty much sums it up.... quote...But, if the person says, "I'm going to get a knife, find you, and cut you," that threat isn't an assault because the threat is not immediate.

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by Banshee

The "assault" occurs when a person in proximity of the threat AND that threat caused fear. If I hear Joe will beat the crap out of Mike and I tell Mike and then goes to the police, that is hearsay. All Mike has to do is deny he said that. Same holds true for first person. Mike tells Joe he will beat his ass. Do you have an assault, or do you have "threats"? You have by definition, an assault.

How many cases have you heard this....Joe hears from Tom that Mike threatened to beat Joes ass, serves jail time.

None in my 21 year L.E. career.

Here is a legal definition.

What is assault?

Assault is a threatened or attempted physical attack against another by a person who appears to have the ability to cause bodily harm. The threat must cause apprehension or fear of immediate harm in the victim. For example, if someone is holding a knife and says, "I'm going to cut you," that's an assault. But, if the person says, "I'm going to get a knife, find you, and cut you," that threat isn't an assault because the threat is not immediate.

As in the OP, the poster heard the fathers threat through her stepfather towards the poster..the last part pretty much sums it up.... quote...But, if the person says, "I'm going to get a knife, find you, and cut you," that threat isn't an assault because the threat is not immediate.

Thats closer to what I thought it was. Thanks for the clarification.
- X

[coolman]

Originally Posted by jrboyd_1980

That is legally defined as assault. It is illegal. Battery is if he actually lays his hands on you.

If indirectly telling someone else that you want to kick their butt is assault, then I guess I should be thrown in jail every weekend when we watch the nascar races. That damn Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson.

[brandotron]

Originally Posted by Banshee

The "assault" occurs when a person in proximity of the threat AND that threat caused fear. If I hear Joe will beat the crap out of Mike and I tell Mike and then goes to the police, that is hearsay. All Mike has to do is deny he said that. Same holds true for first person. Mike tells Joe he will beat his ass. Do you have an assault, or do you have "threats"? You have by definition, an assault.

How many cases have you heard this....Joe hears from Tom that Mike threatened to beat Joes ass, serves jail time.

None in my 21 year L.E. career.

Here is a legal definition.

What is assault?

Assault is a threatened or attempted physical attack against another by a person who appears to have the ability to cause bodily harm. The threat must cause apprehension or fear of immediate harm in the victim. For example, if someone is holding a knife and says, "I'm going to cut you," that's an assault. But, if the person says, "I'm going to get a knife, find you, and cut you," that threat isn't an assault because the threat is not immediate.

As in the OP, the poster heard the fathers threat through her stepfather towards the poster..the last part pretty much sums it up.... quote...But, if the person says, "I'm going to get a knife, find you, and cut you," that threat isn't an assault because the threat is not immediate.

Straight from the Popo's mouth!