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ahart04 · 01-23-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Banshee

600 miles and the engine is not even close to broken in. Normal to see some blue smoke.

I strongly disagree. Your car was broken in (as far as seating seals) by the 100 mile mark. It sounds like you have a bigger problem. Don't just wait for the 1500 mile mark, it won't just go away

Russell James · 01-23-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ahart04

I strongly disagree. Your car was broken in (as far as seating seals) by the 100 mile mark. It sounds like you have a bigger problem. Don't just wait for the 1500 mile mark, it won't just go away

Not really. Dyno test a car at 100 miles and then at 5000. You'll notice more power and better mpgs at 5000. Why, some more break in has occured, better ring sealing, less drag.... At 100 it's still quite green. But certainly ready for some hard running. Not saying you need to tip toe a 100 mile motor, nothing wrong with showing it the thottle, but still a long way to go before it's really fully broke in.

I'll take bets nothing is wrong. The leak needs to be addressed. But a brand new car showing a little blueish exhaust on start up? Seen it 1,000 times when I was working at a dealer. I remember seeing it on my '09 Silverado when using the remote start a few times staring at the exhaust.

The fix is to stand at the front of the car when using the remote start.

If it's just a slight bluish tinge you can see in the vapor. 99% of what you see out the exhaust is water vapor. 1 gal of gas = 10 gal of water vapor produced.

What's gas from? Oil? What did manufacturers do to get the cat converters to light off very quick? Go way rich on cold start, tons of raw fuel thrown at the converter? Add a green fresh engine to that mix, and why wouldn't you see a wisp of blueish in the start up vapors?

Most people just aren't staring at the exhaust for those first couple of seconds. Watch some of the you-tube exhaust and header videos of Camaros. When they do the cold starts with the camera right back by the exhausts, not too many have perfectly clear exhausts.

yellowjacket · 01-23-2010, 11:52 AM

There is going to be a problem and it is not going to have anything to do with break in. I would investigate a catch can. It sounds as if you may be having a oil circulation problem.

Russell James · 01-23-2010, 01:36 PM

It doesn't need a catch can. Do you know how many 3.6's and 6.2's are on the road with perfectly functioning stock pcv systems? Tens of thousands.

It needs the remote start disabled for a couple hundred miles.

ahart04 · 01-23-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell James

Not really. Dyno test a car at 100 miles and then at 5000. You'll notice more power and better mpgs at 5000. Why, some more break in has occured, better ring sealing, less drag.... At 100 it's still quite green. But certainly ready for some hard running. Not saying you need to tip toe a 100 mile motor, nothing wrong with showing it the thottle, but still a long way to go before it's really fully broke in.

well.... yes, but the power difference is due to many things, such as tweaks from the ecu et al. A substantial portion of that power, however, is not due to ring sealing as the majority of that process happens within the first hundred miles.

I say he has something wrong not solely based on blue smoke, but the several other symptoms the op has posted. He has a leak, popping, rough idle, and excessive blue smoke out of the exhaust. It's not fine.

CWI · 01-23-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 10ssCamaro

actually I doubt this is it...but where did you buy fuel for it...most jet fuel burns blue

Sounds like the afterburner is lagging.

joes407 · 01-23-2010, 06:47 PM

the wifes auto had some funky smoke come out of the pipe as well but the issues were the pipes had to get heated all the way back to burn off the new pipe residue and there were stickers all over the pipe that burned slowly for a few days. no smoke at all now

Russell James · 01-23-2010, 07:11 PM

Lets see a video of this smoker.

What was your oil level at time of purchase, and now?

flyby · 01-23-2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Sounds like the afterburner is lagging.

Actually jet aircraft (militarfy type) burn a type of deisel combined with lots of chemicals, not gas. Worked on them for lots of years, afterburner burns real dark black.

Speedfreak · 01-23-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky SOB

Blue smoke = engine burning oil

Find another dealer if you can

kutch720 · 01-23-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by flyby

Actually jet aircraft (militarfy type) burn a type of deisel combined with lots of chemicals, not gas. Worked on them for lots of years, afterburner burns real dark black.

Would that be JP-5? That is what we use in our Helo's. Correct it is a diesel fuel.

97one · 01-23-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmikestlmo

I have a 2010 Camaro with 600 miles, when the car sits for 24 hrs or more when I use the remote start it blows out blue smoke from the exhaust for about 4 to 5 seconds. I have contacted the dealer and they tell me it is normaL AND IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A BREAK IN PERIOD. I had them start 2 other cars on their lot, both 3.6L v6 and neither one did this. They stated not all have to take this time to seat. I have contacted GM to get NO help. I have had the car since December 26th 2009 and am NOT happy with the several problems I am having with the car thus far. I also have had to have the automatic seat heaters programed 3 times and it does not hold the memory. I am also having a leak in the front of the engine , but the dealer can not figure out where or what is leaking, but I have 2 20 inch diameter spots on my driveway to prove the problem.I have asked several times to exchange my car under the 60 day return policy with NO help from GM.

YOUR DEALER is a complete idiot.......

tony1 · 01-24-2010, 08:59 AM

it sounds like its only vapor to me .. if you can't start it with out the remote and run to the back to see it. If it were oil the gray cloud would still be floating in the air. There is alot of exhaust going thru thses big engine's and there will be some vapor.. just look at some of the exhaust and Dyno videos on this site and you will see the vapor coming out of the exhaust.. if the cloud would hang and not dissapate quickly then it's oil ..also you'd bw able to smell it big time...

Jmikestlmo · 02-14-2010, 09:57 PM

Well, GM requested an independent company from the BBB through the Auto Line come out and examine the car for all the Mechanical issues. I also had an independent company come out and look at the car. The results were as follows, The Blue smoke came out of the exhaust for approximately 30 Seconds , the remote start did not function properly, the seat heaters lost memory for the 5th time to function when remote starting, the only thing that did not show up was the Leak in the front of the car, which only took 3 times to the dealer to find, after I placed cardboard under the car, left it over night and they still claimed they could not find it, and I said keep it till you do. The next day , after placing cardboard under the car again they found it, it was the Transmission line to the cooler at a clamp that was not seated properly. All 3 of the other Consistent problems were apparent . I called GM and they said they have not got the report from the BBB due to the snow storm and no one was in the office, Of course I called the BBB to confirm, and they were there and sent the Information on the GM. The Lies I have been told are Just beyond belief . The Dealer tell me it has to be broken in, At GM, they tell me the new cars do not have an Old style Break in Period , the car should get better performance with time, but the functions should be right from the day I take possession . Also I went to 3 dealers and asked them to start other camaros, same motor on their lot and , GUESS what? NO SMOKE!!!!
They asked me, why would you think a new car would smoke? I showed them Pictures of the car smoking, they were flabbergasted .

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01-23-2010, 11:52 AM	#31
yellowjacket Drives: 2005 Roush Mustang Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bowling Green Ky Posts: 8	There is going to be a problem and it is not going to have anything to do with break in. I would investigate a catch can. It sounds as if you may be having a oil circulation problem.

01-23-2010, 01:36 PM	#32
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,482	It doesn't need a catch can. Do you know how many 3.6's and 6.2's are on the road with perfectly functioning stock pcv systems? Tens of thousands. It needs the remote start disabled for a couple hundred miles.

01-23-2010, 06:47 PM	#35
joes407 Drives: 2014 ZL1m6 red hot #569 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: florida Posts: 2,422	the wifes auto had some funky smoke come out of the pipe as well but the issues were the pipes had to get heated all the way back to burn off the new pipe residue and there were stickers all over the pipe that burned slowly for a few days. no smoke at all now

01-23-2010, 07:11 PM	#36
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,482	Lets see a video of this smoker. What was your oil level at time of purchase, and now?

01-24-2010, 08:59 AM	#41
tony1 Drives: 2SS/RS Vortech/L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 474	it sounds like its only vapor to me .. if you can't start it with out the remote and run to the back to see it. If it were oil the gray cloud would still be floating in the air. There is alot of exhaust going thru thses big engine's and there will be some vapor.. just look at some of the exhaust and Dyno videos on this site and you will see the vapor coming out of the exhaust.. if the cloud would hang and not dissapate quickly then it's oil ..also you'd bw able to smell it big time...

02-14-2010, 09:57 PM	#42
Jmikestlmo Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saint Louis Posts: 5	Well, GM requested an independent company from the BBB through the Auto Line come out and examine the car for all the Mechanical issues. I also had an independent company come out and look at the car. The results were as follows, The Blue smoke came out of the exhaust for approximately 30 Seconds , the remote start did not function properly, the seat heaters lost memory for the 5th time to function when remote starting, the only thing that did not show up was the Leak in the front of the car, which only took 3 times to the dealer to find, after I placed cardboard under the car, left it over night and they still claimed they could not find it, and I said keep it till you do. The next day , after placing cardboard under the car again they found it, it was the Transmission line to the cooler at a clamp that was not seated properly. All 3 of the other Consistent problems were apparent . I called GM and they said they have not got the report from the BBB due to the snow storm and no one was in the office, Of course I called the BBB to confirm, and they were there and sent the Information on the GM. The Lies I have been told are Just beyond belief . The Dealer tell me it has to be broken in, At GM, they tell me the new cars do not have an Old style Break in Period , the car should get better performance with time, but the functions should be right from the day I take possession . Also I went to 3 dealers and asked them to start other camaros, same motor on their lot and , GUESS what? NO SMOKE!!!! They asked me, why would you think a new car would smoke? I showed them Pictures of the car smoking, they were flabbergasted .