New Camaro - Speed Limiter and Traction Control

[maxdmax]

I bought my Wife a 05 Mustang GT which she drove for about a year and then we ended up getting her a 07 Tahoe. I drove the Mustang for about a year before giving it to my Son for his 16th birthday (yea so I could get a Camaro). I am very familiar with the "traction control" on the Mustang. It is great for wet roads, when the tires are cold and for a beginner driver. But the traction control takes the fun factor from a "6" to "0". I would just rather default to fun first and be conserative as needed, I just get tired of turning it off all the time in good conditions. I would rather take my chances at remote chance at hitting the rev limiter when the time is right and not wondering what happened to me 422 HP motor.

[Rodrunner]

Originally Posted by SilverTurtle

TC = Traction Control

AH = Active Handling... also known as Stability Management


Traction Control does exactly what you suggested... with the new Camaro, there is a special feature called "Launch Control" which will let just a little bit of wheel slip happen to get the car started and then it grips and keeps the car planted... this is, basically, a drag race mode that allows for faster times at the track.

Active Handling takes a measurement of the speed of each wheel and senses whether the car is going too fast at one wheel vs. the other three wheels... on more sophisticated versions, a gyrometer is used to determine if there is excessive increase in lateral g's that warrants applying the brakes at one corner, or more, of the car to keep it from spinning... Corvettes use this system and I'm not sure, but kind of think that the new Camaro will use it, too.

Thanks for the info!

Okay, so we all want to be able to disable TC to do burnouts. But doesn't the Active Handling also apply brake to any of the four corners to maintain control and also prevent doing a burnout, and can it be deactivated?

2SS/RS Black/Black w-Cyber Gray stripes/Auto ordered-10/18/08

[Matrix]

Are the 20" RS wheels run flats? I could be wrong.

As for speed limiter I agree it should be easy to take of with a tuner.
As for traction control, this has saved my life many times in my Magnum. I BELEIVE it should be ON as a default and you should be able to swich it off if you want it, just like on the Magnums.

[maxdmax]

I watched a video at the Dealer on the new Camaro and do remember them saying they chose not to use the run flat tires on the Camaro but I do not remember them saying it was on any given wheel size.

[maxdmax]

Fastball
Been there done that, something best kept to yourself if at all possible. I actually thought my clutch had let go.

[TRIXXTERR]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

A couple of things.........

As to defaulting the traction control to 'off' -- my question is "why?"
It's there for a reason - and the biggest one I can think of is to protect the driver from accidents. (.....and I should also add -- '...and anyone unfortunate enough to be near said driver when they do something to lose control of their vehicle.........)

I know on my 96 I ALWAYS turn it off before i even get my seatbelt on.. simple reason is.. if left on when pulling out onto the highway in traffic, it WILL kick in and the car starts sputtering like its out gas, I Guess bcus the ECM thinks i'm loosing traction.. Does The same When trying to pass Some In The Slow Lane Too.. Darn Thing Has Almost Caused a few accidents...funny tho i turn it off and have ZERO problems.. No Wheel Spin, No loss of traction, ETC.. Maybe Mine Is defective Or OVERLY sensitive.. Hell I Had The Car for about 2 hrs Before I figured out what the ASR (TC)Button was... Still Not Sure What ASR Stands For.. Anti-Spin Reducer?? Sounds Good anyway..lol


Dunno Bout The speed limiter tho.. I havent Hit Mine, if There Is One Still On it.. only had it up to 130-135.. hey i t was an emergency.. there was lots of bleeding envovled... Side Note Tho made it to the Hospital in record time..

[weedwacker13]

I dont really see a problem with having the t-control on as a default. sure it can be a pain to turn off, if you forget it is on, but come on, you have to turn on your head lights with a button when its dark so that you can see, so whats wrong with pressing a button before you do a burn out.

[str8himalaya]

Are we really seriously mad about TC being on at start up? It's a freaking button, its not like you have to climb under the car to turn it off. It's a button, and for the safety it does provide, its well worth the little button push it takes to turn it off. The only reason i even turn mine of is for showing off (burnouts) or racing.

[maxdmax]

Originally Posted by weedwacker13

I dont really see a problem with having the t-control on as a default. sure it can be a pain to turn off, if you forget it is on, but come on, you have to turn on your head lights with a button when its dark so that you can see, so whats wrong with pressing a button before you do a burn out.

Guess you are right on this one, I got it down pretty well on the Mustang, I always turn off the traction control as soon as I buckle my seat belt so I will do the same on the Camaro too. I just hope I do not forget the procedure; since I ordered the Camaro I just don't have much of a desire to drive the Mustang any more.

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by TRIXXTERR

I know on my 96 I ALWAYS turn it off before i even get my seatbelt on.. simple reason is.. if left on when pulling out onto the highway in traffic, it WILL kick in and the car starts sputtering like its out gas, I Guess bcus the ECM thinks i'm loosing traction.. Does The same When trying to pass Some In The Slow Lane Too.. Darn Thing Has Almost Caused a few accidents...funny tho i turn it off and have ZERO problems.. No Wheel Spin, No loss of traction, ETC.. Maybe Mine Is defective Or OVERLY sensitive.. Hell I Had The Car for about 2 hrs Before I figured out what the ASR (TC)Button was... Still Not Sure What ASR Stands For.. Anti-Spin Reducer?? Sounds Good anyway..lol


Dunno Bout The speed limiter tho.. I havent Hit Mine, if There Is One Still On it.. only had it up to 130-135.. hey i t was an emergency.. there was lots of bleeding envovled... Side Note Tho made it to the Hospital in record time..

Yeah yours is definitely defective. I mean, I've autocrossed a Kia Sedona minivan in a dirt lot and the electronic nannies allowed much more before kicking in. Get that fixed. A good traction and stability control system will allow all normal passing, merging, and acceleration procedures and even a good deal of aggressive driving. If yours is kicking in under those conditions, either it is defective or you're really doing something wrong.

[s.norman]

Originally Posted by TomServo

Go visit the Corvette Forum and see how many folks swear by the current version of TC/AH as it's implemented in the vette. I know it saved my butt twice at Road America during HSDE's. And unless you were in over your head it never got in the way, and it was nice knowing it was there should I over drive my skills.

Why any one would want the TC in the OFF mode upon start up is beyond me. In the vette you can turn off the TC and leave the AH on (called Competition Mode) or you can hold the button for 5 seconds and turn off BOTH TC/AH and play hero.

during a race u want the tc off or it will run slower

[SScattergunSS]

Guys, forgive my ignorance in this matter, but since both of my Ponitac's are older cars, I have no experience with either Traction or Stability Control.

1. How many modes are we going to have with our Camaros?

2. Can the driver change modes while the vehicle is moving, or must it only be done at a standstill?

3. Are the rules the same for both transmissions offerings? Thanks....

[weedwacker13]

1. Im assuming there will be just on and off

2. almost def. yes

3. this one I cant answer

[TRIXXTERR]

Originally Posted by stovt001

Yeah yours is definitely defective. I mean, I've autocrossed a Kia Sedona minivan in a dirt lot and the electronic nannies allowed much more before kicking in. Get that fixed. A good traction and stability control system will allow all normal passing, merging, and acceleration procedures and even a good deal of aggressive driving. If yours is kicking in under those conditions, either it is defective or you're really doing something wrong.

Hmm OK.. I May have to Track Down, The Local (IMHO) Camaro EXPERT..

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