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carfansince73 · 11-22-2008, 08:35 AM

That really sucks bigtime on the G8 GXP. IIRC, the last GTO with the 4 speed auto had the tax, but not the manual. I hope neither Camaro gets the tax. The Camaro has one more gear in the automatic over the Challenger not to mention it weighs 200 - 300 pounds less. Hopefully the lesser weight will keep the 6sp manuals out of the tax too.

I realize I am not buying this car for good gas mileage, but I don't need 2,000 George Washingtons leaving my wallet reminding me so. :( :(

fastball · 11-22-2008, 08:53 AM

Based on what I've read and heard, the manual LS3 and automatic L99 both will get an overall average of 23 mpg. This is enough to escape the gas guzzler tax for both models.

FirstLSK · 11-22-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MerlinZero

There can't be, if the Z51 C6 didnt have one, why would the camaro.... :P Its going to have an ass tax though..... "If you scratch her, I will TAX THAT ASS"..... oh yeah...

Damned right -- except you are way to lenient.

rayhawk · 11-22-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by interrex

My 2005 GTO had the tax and it got 27mpg I think because it was a import with a vin number of 5 that is why it is stated on the window sticker. When I worked for GM they would disperse the cost of that tax all over the American car market price. For example the Silverado has the tax but they do not show it because they sell enough fuel efficient cars to absorb the price. CAFE standards is what I am talking about.

The gas guzzler tax does not apply to trucks, and I think they have to show that the tax is being applied. That is the point to discourage the consumer from buying that car.

CWI · 11-22-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MerlinZero

There can't be, if the Z51 C6 didnt have one, why would the camaro.... :P Its going to have an ass tax though..... "If you scratch her, I will TAX THAT ASS"..... oh yeah...

Off topic, but!! If you are getting an SS you can't call it her or give it a girl name. Scott (Fbodfather) said some time ago that the SS is too mean and too much a beast to be called her. Scott just my come looking for you. Or send some black SUVs.

I admit I have never researched or even discussed the topic, just putting down my thoughts. I thought gas guzzler tax went on all heavy, thirsty vehicles including SUVs and pickups. That would make more sense. Tax the rigs that get 14-17 MPG, not cars that get 23. WTF is up with that? Isn't that part of the reason car companies are making so many "crossover" vehicles. They serve the same purpose as a SUV and get better mileage. Do they get hit?

teamlynn1 · 11-22-2008, 01:54 PM

No gas guzzler tax end of story write that down friends!

RallyFever · 11-22-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermans

Actually on the statement there is still no price on the car even though officially we all may have an agreement on MSRP with the dealer officially. The gas guzzler tax would be something extra we would see when doing the final payment if I remember correctly since I was hit with it once before..

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!

What is wrong with you guys?????
All pricing has been released for the vehicle itself.
Some accessory pricing has not been released.

I have as well as thousands of others, received a FINAL out the door price based upon those initail numbers.

ONCE AGAIN - IF YOU HAVE NOT< SHAME ON YOU!!!

You must not have ordered one yet or you would already know this.

Rodrunner · 11-22-2008, 06:02 PM

For any doubters....the 2008 vehicles subject to the gas guzzler tax are listed here http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/index.htm in a PDF file. It clearly shows the Challenger SRT8 which has EPA ratings of 13mpg city and 18mpg highway as having a "Combined MPG" of 19.1....certainly not the average of 13 & 18, but rather it is "the rounded combined mpg value adjusted using the test procedure credit equation." I don't know WTF that means, but the SS Camaro's Combined MPG would have to be somewhere above the 22.5mpg tax threshold....therefore the NO TAXers have it!!!....not that I didn't believe you guys right from the start

PENN STATE IS KICKIN' SOME M.St. BUTT...YES!!!!

ROSE BOWL HERE WE COME!!!

2SS/RS Black/Black w-Cyber Gray stripes/Auto ordered-10/18/08

carfansince73 · 11-22-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RallyFever

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!

What is wrong with you guys?????
All pricing has been released for the vehicle itself.

Oh yeah...

:bangdesk:

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Originally Posted by RallyFever

ONCE AGAIN - IF YOU HAVE NOT< SHAME ON YOU!!!

You must not have ordered one yet or you would already know this.

Well, I am waiting until next summer to order. Just don't have the funds now. :( :(

06GTO · 11-22-2008, 07:19 PM

$2k gas guzzler is total bs. I remember when i thought 1300 $ for the GTO's gas guzzler was bad. This sucks!

*DGthe3* · 11-22-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodrunner

For any doubters....the 2008 vehicles subject to the gas guzzler tax are listed here http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/index.htm in a PDF file. It clearly shows the Challenger SRT8 which has EPA ratings of 13mpg city and 18mpg highway as having a "Combined MPG" of 19.1....certainly not the average of 13 & 18, but rather it is "the rounded combined mpg value adjusted using the test procedure credit equation." I don't know WTF that means, but the SS Camaro's Combined MPG would have to be somewhere above the 22.5mpg tax threshold....therefore the NO TAXers have it!!!....not that I didn't believe you guys right from the start

PENN STATE IS KICKIN' SOME M.St. BUTT...YES!!!!

ROSE BOWL HERE WE COME!!!

2SS/RS Black/Black w-Cyber Gray stripes/Auto ordered-10/18/08

Basically, it is an equation that accounts for the fact that bigger cars are less efficient, among other things. I think.

Rodrunner · 11-22-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 06GTO

$2k gas guzzler is total bs. I remember when i thought 1300 $ for the GTO's gas guzzler was bad. This sucks!

Calm down and

Specifically....my post just above....NO GAS GUZZLER TAX ON THE 2010 CAMARO!!!!!!

2SS/RS Black/Black w-Cyber Gray stripes/Auto ordered-10/18/08

Rodrunner · 11-22-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Basically, it is an equation that accounts for the fact that bigger cars are less efficient, among other things. I think.

If I start calling myself "moderator" will I know as much as you guys??

Thanks for the info....seems logical that size would enter into the equation....of course I tell my wife it doesn't.

2SS/RS Black/Black w-Cyber Gray stripes/Auto ordered-10/18/08

edog · 11-22-2008, 07:54 PM

I have a signed sales order by the dealer. He asked what would happen if the MSRP went up. I stated it depended on how much. He made my deposit non-refundable, so I take it the order he wrote up is unchangeable.

11-22-2008, 08:35 AM	#29
carfansince73 Drives: Carefully Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,210 View My Garage	That really sucks bigtime on the G8 GXP. IIRC, the last GTO with the 4 speed auto had the tax, but not the manual. I hope neither Camaro gets the tax. The Camaro has one more gear in the automatic over the Challenger not to mention it weighs 200 - 300 pounds less. Hopefully the lesser weight will keep the 6sp manuals out of the tax too. I realize I am not buying this car for good gas mileage, but I don't need 2,000 George Washingtons leaving my wallet reminding me so. :( :( __________________ 2010 1SS RS, LS3, SIM/Black, painted rally stripes, AAC sidemarkers, Sunroof, B.A. sound sys; 20x9.5 & 20x11 SV1-C5's; MGW short shifter; Hotchkis Track Pack; Corsa catback; Kooks 1 7/8"; ADM Street; Magnacharger TVS2300 - 548rwhp/512rwtq 1100- 2/18/09; 3800- 6/15/09 VIN#18308; Delivered 6/29/09!!!!! 2014 CTS-V Sedan, Black/Black, Auto, Recaros, Ultra-view, Red Brembos. Stock

11-22-2008, 01:54 PM	#34
teamlynn1 Mr. Chevrolet Drives: 2007 Tahoe Z71, 2009 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 334	No gas guzzler tax end of story write that down friends! __________________ Bobby Lynn GM Burien Chevrolet www.burienchevrolet.com 206-243-5800 ext 151

11-22-2008, 07:19 PM	#38
06GTO Drives: 06 GTO, 06 Z06, 06 X5 4.4 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SC Posts: 48	$2k gas guzzler is total bs. I remember when i thought 1300 $ for the GTO's gas guzzler was bad. This sucks! __________________ '06 GTO M6 '06 Z06

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fastball Banned Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 4,361	Based on what I've read and heard, the manual LS3 and automatic L99 both will get an overall average of 23 mpg. This is enough to escape the gas guzzler tax for both models.

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Rodrunner Senior Member Drives: 2010 SS/RS, '06 350Z Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: So. Maryland Posts: 2,326	For any doubters....the 2008 vehicles subject to the gas guzzler tax are listed here http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/index.htm in a PDF file. It clearly shows the Challenger SRT8 which has EPA ratings of 13mpg city and 18mpg highway as having a "Combined MPG" of 19.1....certainly not the average of 13 & 18, but rather it is "the rounded combined mpg value adjusted using the test procedure credit equation." I don't know WTF that means, but the SS Camaro's Combined MPG would have to be somewhere above the 22.5mpg tax threshold....therefore the NO TAXers have it!!!....not that I didn't believe you guys right from the start PENN STATE IS KICKIN' SOME M.St. BUTT...YES!!!! ROSE BOWL HERE WE COME!!! 2SS/RS Black/Black w-Cyber Gray stripes/Auto ordered-10/18/08

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edog Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: F'BURG VA Posts: 3,832 View My Garage	I have a signed sales order by the dealer. He asked what would happen if the MSRP went up. I stated it depended on how much. He made my deposit non-refundable, so I take it the order he wrote up is unchangeable.