Inside Line: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs. 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Comparison

[dkg11]

see there is a little problem with this... Chevy has no clue how to tune an engine... unless they downtuned the ZL1 so it was not as fast as the Z06... all you need to do is throw a real intake and tune the car and the ZL1 will smoke the GT500...i am the owner of mustang dynamometer and i have tuned both of these cars for companies

[Bob Cosby]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

... Furthermore, it would be interesting to see how the base GT500 performs on the drag strip, I am sure the Torsen limited slip differential aids in the straight line performance?

The base GT500 comes with a limited slip differential (commonly referred to as a "posi"). The Torsen would not be of any help on the drag strip.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

Is that a reference to the great Richard Petty who drove for Dodge(Mopar)?

Yep. My first hero as a kid. He drove for Ford one year as well.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Au contraire, I guess you missed my answer to that post (post 250), I said I had not seen that artical. And in my original post you included here I said If I remember correctly, that means I did not remember seeing anything about Chevy promoting the ZL1 as a drag car. Still again as I said in that post all the TV commercials have shown it on a road course, not a drag strip. Also about me stirring the pot more than anyone else you need to look at all the Mustang people comments and see who is stirring. Many of my posts were saying that on a road course it will still depend on how long the straights are, the longer the better for the Shelby. So you need to read before flaming. Even though I quit posting, I did make several more posts after the one you mentioned, And as I stated by that time it was going around in circles just as it still is, anyway i kept reading just so I could see remarks like yours. Good luck and nice try.

I saw an ad for the ZL1 on the strip. Not that it matters, just saying. What is interesting though is the ZL1 designation for a car that does so well on the track and the statement from a GM insider that the Z28 will go on a car deserving of the name. As good as the Boss was, as good as the ZL1 is I expect both to be overshadowed when the real Z28 hits.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by GearBangr

Anything can happen on the street.
Doesn't matter anyways. 99% of 500 and zl1 owners will never see more than 80mph.
Or anything more strenous than Sunday drives.

So true. Gotta say though almost every Boss owner I've met is beating on his car. I wonder if the 1LE will appeal to the same kind of abusive owners?

[PDSS]

Originally Posted by snapp32e

If it was all about "being lined up on the street" I could have built a 2013 GT500 "ass whooping" Camaro for less than I paid for the ZL1. For me it had nothing to do with straight lined performance. The ZL1 is a complete package from the factory, ready for the track even if 95% of the time it will never see it. That's what sold me.

I see the comparison must still be stinging for you....too bad.

[doc7000]

Im still waiting on the test from other sources, did insideline beat everyone else or what?

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

So true. Gotta say though almost ever Boss owner I've met is beating on his car. I wonder if the 1LE will appeal to the same kind of abusive owners?

I think that someone who springs for the 1LE option is looking forward to using the added performance, especially since there is nothing in the option there to impress the average onlooker. Function>Form

[doc7000]

Originally Posted by PDSS

I see the comparison must still be stinging for you....too bad.

I don't see how, once Ford had announced that the 2013 GT500 was to pack 650BHP everyone knew it would be king in a line. Yet people still purchased ZL1 Camaro's, which goes to show that people who were purchasing the ZL1 Camaro were looking for something else then what the GT500 is.

Sure you can try to argue that this is the classic use of these cars, lined up at the stop light. However there are large amounts of car enthusiast in America who look forward to driving in corners or mountain roads (like me). I don't even watch drag racing, my uncle (RIP) was a huge fan of drag racing and he did it when he was younger. He would watch the NHRA drag racing when it was in town, that was his thing however for me it was road racing. I got super hooked on watching the Speed World Challenge series years ago (now they dropped the Speed part). I remember when the Real Time racing acura NSX was competing with the AWD Audis and when Cadillac came in and kicked everyones ass. I remember when they had to limit the CTS V to 7,000rpms........

[2012ZL1]

Originally Posted by GearBangr

Anything can happen on the street.
Doesn't matter anyways. 99% of 500 and zl1 owners will never see more than 80mph.
Or anything more strenous than Sunday drives.

Can't vouch for anyone else, but ..uh...NO. Most people buy these cars to USE them, a few possibly will be treated like you say, but not the majority by a long shot.

[doc7000]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

I think that someone who springs for the 1LE option is looking forward to using the added performance, especially since there is nothing in the option there to impress the average onlooker. Function>Form

I would agree, since there is no added horsepower with the 1LE there is no reason for anyone other then those who would use the 1LE to opt for it.

[snapp32e]

Originally Posted by PDSS

I see the comparison must still be stinging for you....too bad.

Na, not at all. I live in a town of 5000 people in the middle of no where Canada. There isn't a GT500 of any year within 150km in any direction from me. The only competition for me around here is some ones fixed up 86 half ton....lol.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by snapp32e

Na, not at all. I live in a town of 5000 people in the middle of no where Canada. There isn't a GT500 of any year within 150km in any direction from me. The only competition for me around here is some ones fixed up 86 half ton....lol.

Great response

[stand-al0ne]

I love speed and style, regardless of the make. The fact that both of these have it make me wish I had room in my wallet for both of these! #dreamgarage