ABL (ambient lighting) limited to the doors only?

[FAF]

did it mention anithing about the ambient light in the rear deck speaker area

[PQ]

Originally Posted by nol300

No was just talking about the launch and that it would have it in the doors and kinda moved on the the next subject.

Sorry for doubting. Very sensitive subject. But you certainly gained some status.

The one who broke the news.

[NAHURRY]

Originally Posted by nol300

No was just talking about the launch and that it would have it in the doors and kinda moved on the the next subject.

Thanks nol300!..although its not the news I wanted to hear, atleast we know
now.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by RT21

I think the MODs frown on cursing...O_O

I throw myself on the mercy of the Mods.

[NAHURRY]

Originally Posted by irpq11

Sorry for doubting. Very sensitive subject. But you certainly gained some status.

The one who broke the news.

You got that rite friend.

[nol300]

Originally Posted by irpq11

Sorry for doubting. Very sensitive subject. But you certainly gained some status.

The one who broke the news.

It's all good I debated posting as I know it is so sensitive.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by nol300

It's all good I debated posting as I know it is so sensitive.

It's cool.

Now. If you could work on the CGM date....... thing!

[DDustiNN]

Finally. Can we move on now?

Next please.

[UCF w00t]

I still want to know details and see pictures/video of the finished product. This topic isn't dead yet.

[gto_in_nc]

Originally Posted by Hylton

I'm curious to know what part of Stouts post made you believe he is a nutcase?

I was kinda wondering that, too. Personally, I don't WANT the ABL on my 2SS because I personally think it is about half a step removed from neon hung underlighting (along with a good bit of the accessories) but that is just my personal opinion.

What is NOT just my personal opinion is the fact that GM is building this car to mass-market to the general auto-buying public with the hopes of turning a tidy profit on it. Every single decision they make or announcement they make or revelation they make it 100% geared specifically towards that aim. This is as it should be. GM is not in the business of building boutique sports cars and this is a good thing because that is about a million miles outside their core competency. Do they have the "brainpower"? Sure! That's not GM's raison d'être, however. Further, as a GM stockholder, I would be pissed if they WERE attempting to cater to the whims of a microcosm of enthusiasts on a handful of web forum and the expense of sound business decision-making.

On the other hand, GM does not "owe" any of us one dime for modifying ABL in a way that decreases its coverage or appearance any more than it would be reasonable to expect a refund or reduction in price should they not paint the shark fin or they do paint the shark fin (depending on whether you'd prefer it body color or not.)

In any case, however, it is illogical to claim that potential buyers should be grateful to GM for the privilege of buying their mass-produced consumable product and it is also illogical to expect special treatment from GM because they have slightly varied production models from what shown in pre-production models -- especially since the whole "production models may vary" thing should come as no surprise to anyone and even more especially since (to my knowledge) there was no ABL-specific pricing ever discussed as a baseline upon which to base such a discount.

I think Stout is justified in expressing his disappointment at the change (if, in fact, this proves true and permanent) and I think he is equally justified in vocalizing towards those who suggest that he's being an ingrate. I also think that expecting GM to compensate you for that change is unreasonable but would suggest (to anyone for whom ABL was a significant part of the purchase decision) this might be a bargaining point with the dealership from whom you might actually buy the car.


Maybe I'm just confused, though, because I don't know "the story of ABL"?

[DDustiNN]

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

I still want to know details and see pictures/video of the finished product. This topic isn't dead yet.

Whoever gets their 2SS first will absolutely take pictures of the ambient lighting and post them here. I have not a single doubt.

[lrc250]

Someone mentioned earlier about ABL in the doors with a cloth insert in the dash.... there is no way in hell they would do that!!! At least I hope not, that would look FUGLY!

[UCF w00t]

Originally Posted by DDustiNN

Whoever gets their 2SS first will absolutely take pictures of the ambient lighting and post them here. I have not a single doubt.

We damn well better have something concrete before people take delivery.

[RT21]

Originally Posted by Hylton

true but this is beyond that. This is about an option which was decided on a year ago and marketed (not rumored) to the public. It's like stating that the LS3 has 426 hp only to find out it has 375hp.

If they knew the technology was not proven, why did they commit to it so long ago? They must have known 6 months ago of the problem, yet they could not fix it after 6 months of R&D?

Originally Posted by Blownhotrodder

I cant believe all this drama over some dim lights on the dash. You guys just need to appreciate the fact that GM let those that wanted, be in on the development of this car. They didnt have to do this you know. Look at all the things you guys asked for and recieved. Paint colors and other things, bunch of ungreatful people. If they are smart, this will probably be the last time they let us in during development because of some ungreatful ninnies. If your not happy, you always have the option of not buying it. But is that what this car is all about anyway, some lighting on the dash?

No one on this board is forced to buy this car. No one even told you to pre-order a car you never sat in or test drived. Be mad. Get over it. It's a great car.