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trm0002 · 01-09-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by camarogreg@evs

Constraints are weekly. Consensus occurs monthly so dealers can plan their allocation for weekly ordering.

So what exactly does your concensus tell you at the beginning of each month? Just V6 vs V8 total allocation for the month? If so, why wouldn't you just place all the corresponding orders accordingly that day?

Speedy1975 · 01-09-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Badger

That makes lots of sense..I gonna wait it out till Mid July then make a decision..this whole thing just makes me wanna

I'm sure it does man, but sometimes you gotta make lemonade from lemons. See how it pans out for you, and if it doesn't meet your schedule then use it as an opportunity to save up another 6 mos and just have that much more down payment AND get more features.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

I don't thnk they will be selling 2011s until 2010.........Summer of NEXT year. The 2010 will be a long model run.

Probably. However, the 2010 2010s may have additional features available.

speedster · 01-09-2009, 05:52 PM

Funny that the ratio of GM Camaro show cars is roughly 80% V8 and 20% V6, The pre-orders are roughly 80% V8 and 20% V6, but production is 50/50 at best or flipped 20%/80%. If they follow the path they did with the "new" GTO and sell a grand total of 40k cars over 3 years they will fail. Ford listened to the Mustang owners and sold 200K a year. If GM repeats their arrogance and tells the market they have all of the right answers, the market will drive them to bankruptcy. There are a lot of intelligent people at GM. Unfortunately big egos, personal greed and high level politics kill sensibility.

If worse comes to worse and and they drag out the V8's by flooding the market with V6's, grab yourself a V6 RS, strip out the driveline and put an LSX in it.

Hopefully, this is just a simple blip in production. Time will tell. Be as patient as you can allow yourself to be. At least they are still actually producing the 5th gen Camaro.

StarkyLuv · 01-09-2009, 05:54 PM

Glad I ordered the 2LT!

Eh, the delay gives me more time to build up a down payment.

djsnoflake · 01-09-2009, 05:57 PM

Here's a question to ponder now. Maybe someone can give some insight. Since Scotty has written down that there might be new stripe options and more info, and with the prod. startup being pushed back a month, is there also a similar extension of when our orders have to be 'finalised'?
Cause, (not to start another thread about stripes and be a 70copo) I REALLY would love bumblebee stripes from the factory, and who knows what other little details might come to surface

Oh wait, I shouldn't use a smiley face in this thread. Totally goes against the doom and gloom vibe in here. :( there thats better

*Camaro_Corvette* · 01-09-2009, 05:57 PM

Whats going on here today, I missed the whole morning??

*Reading camaro scotty's post*

Hmmm..

*reading more of scotty's post*

*facepalm*

*reading some of the comments*

:(

Still waiting on abl news

...

Verts back! Or at least has a date!

4 more horsepower

Mosher · 01-09-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro_corvette

Whats going on here today, I missed the whole morning??

*Reading camaro scotty's post*

Hmmm..

*reading more of scotty's post*

*facepalm*

*reading some of the comments*

:(

Still waiting on abl news

...

Verts back! Or at least has a date!

4 more horsepower

Damn that is pretty much what I did lol

camarogreg@evs · 01-09-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trm0002

So what exactly does your concensus tell you at the beginning of each month? Just V6 vs V8 total allocation for the month? If so, why wouldn't you just place all the corresponding orders accordingly that day?

We don't know yet and won't know for a month. With Corvette, you have Vette, Z06 and ZR1. I would assume V6 and V8 would be seperate.

bob2the2nd · 01-09-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkyLuv

Glad I ordered the 2LT!

Eh, the delay gives me more time to build up a down payment.

not sure you will have more time, it could be dramatically less depending on where your spot in line is.

as of right now im the first V6 ordered at my dealership, with 10 V8s in front of me. Im not entirely sure i didnt just jump the line entirely and might end up one of the first to get mine. Who knows whats really going to happen but at this point I wouldnt count out the possibility that yours will come in sooner than expected.

StarkyLuv · 01-09-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob2the2nd

not sure you will have more time, it could be dramatically less depending on where your spot in line is.

as of right now im the first V6 ordered at my dealership, with 10 V8s in front of me. Im not entirely sure i didnt just jump the line entirely and might end up one of the first to get mine. Who knows whats really going to happen but at this point I wouldnt count out the possibility that yours will come in sooner than expected.

I was the 7th Camaro ordered overall at my dealership, 2nd V6. I'm quite sure I'll be getting my car rather early.

TomServo · 01-09-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ZombieEatsYou

Great vid, thanks for putting it together!

And the heavy hand of GM has landed - Vid removed per GM request. This reminds me of the movie "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight".

I wonder how Wal-Mart would have handled this???

Rodrunner · 01-09-2009, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djsnoflake

Here's a question to ponder now. Maybe someone can give some insight. Since Scotty has written down that there might be new stripe options and more info, and with the prod. startup being pushed back a month, is there also a similar extension of when our orders have to be 'finalised'?
Cause, (not to start another thread about stripes and be a 70copo) I REALLY would love bumblebee stripes from the factory, and who knows what other little details might come to surface

Oh wait, I shouldn't use a smiley face in this thread. Totally goes against the doom and gloom vibe in here. :( there thats better

I'm pretty sure they meant more colors will be installed at the factory, not a different type, i.e. longer, stripe. If Copo shows up now, I'm gonna kick yo....

Takes a while to get caught up on 18 pages doesn't it, CC? Not pretty is it?

camaroconti@evs · 01-09-2009, 06:05 PM

our apologies to the GM people that had us remove the video we shared. There was nothing at the beginning of that broadcast that said it was private and not intended for public broadcast..others have, this one did not.

We felt it was so important to share the actual words regarding that "sold orders do not determine allocaton" great to hear so everyone can attempt to be on the same page.

Our intent to give the customer straight talk via GM and ourselves to avoid any further confusion. We have been at this long enough to know better.

We too, care and are concerned about the product and how the customer is handled or we would not have even made the effort to inform folks what is going on. As for being private, I know for a fact, some customers were invited to the dealership to view this broadcast and did.

Thank-you for understanding and we have complied, the video is down. Have a great weekend and look for move informed details we are allowed to share as we have them. This is a car worth waiting for and our hats off to Gm and the Camaro team for bringing her back to life......

Thumbs up
Rick Conti/Greg Sanders

Nexus6 · 01-09-2009, 06:06 PM

I swear if i dont get my car by august im gonna go buy a Viper.Then im gonna actively hunt/pick on every damn Vette and Camaro i can find.This just might turn me to the Dodge side of the force.

01-09-2009, 05:52 PM	#423
speedster SST... Drives: SST Camaro 2010 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: East Coast of Florida Posts: 5,927 View My Garage	Funny that the ratio of GM Camaro show cars is roughly 80% V8 and 20% V6, The pre-orders are roughly 80% V8 and 20% V6, but production is 50/50 at best or flipped 20%/80%. If they follow the path they did with the "new" GTO and sell a grand total of 40k cars over 3 years they will fail. Ford listened to the Mustang owners and sold 200K a year. If GM repeats their arrogance and tells the market they have all of the right answers, the market will drive them to bankruptcy. There are a lot of intelligent people at GM. Unfortunately big egos, personal greed and high level politics kill sensibility. If worse comes to worse and and they drag out the V8's by flooding the market with V6's, grab yourself a V6 RS, strip out the driveline and put an LSX in it. Hopefully, this is just a simple blip in production. Time will tell. Be as patient as you can allow yourself to be. At least they are still actually producing the 5th gen Camaro. __________________

01-09-2009, 05:57 PM	#426
Camaro_Corvette 36.58625, -121.7568 Drives: Team 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 23,710 View My Garage	Whats going on here today, I missed the whole morning?? Reading camaro scotty's post Hmmm.. reading more of scotty's post facepalm reading some of the comments :( Still waiting on abl news ... Verts back! Or at least has a date! 4 more horsepower __________________ I am seriously never serious vv V vv Next order of business

01-09-2009, 06:05 PM	#433
camaroconti@evs Drives: still dreamin Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 82	our apologies to the GM people that had us remove the video we shared. There was nothing at the beginning of that broadcast that said it was private and not intended for public broadcast..others have, this one did not. We felt it was so important to share the actual words regarding that "sold orders do not determine allocaton" great to hear so everyone can attempt to be on the same page. Our intent to give the customer straight talk via GM and ourselves to avoid any further confusion. We have been at this long enough to know better. We too, care and are concerned about the product and how the customer is handled or we would not have even made the effort to inform folks what is going on. As for being private, I know for a fact, some customers were invited to the dealership to view this broadcast and did. Thank-you for understanding and we have complied, the video is down. Have a great weekend and look for move informed details we are allowed to share as we have them. This is a car worth waiting for and our hats off to Gm and the Camaro team for bringing her back to life...... Thumbs up Rick Conti/Greg Sanders Last edited by camaroconti@evs; 01-09-2009 at 06:25 PM.

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djsnoflake Faith Keeper Drives: 2012 Silverado LTZ, 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 2,764 View My Garage	Here's a question to ponder now. Maybe someone can give some insight. Since Scotty has written down that there might be new stripe options and more info, and with the prod. startup being pushed back a month, is there also a similar extension of when our orders have to be 'finalised'? Cause, (not to start another thread about stripes and be a 70copo) I REALLY would love bumblebee stripes from the factory, and who knows what other little details might come to surface Oh wait, I shouldn't use a smiley face in this thread. Totally goes against the doom and gloom vibe in here. :( there thats better

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