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Old 02-25-2009, 09:30 PM   #449
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How's that post count coming along?
Don't know, ask the guys in PWA. Guess I just want to be a smart alec toward a topic that seems to just go back and forth and never get anywhere. Try to keep the peace a little. Would you like me to stop?
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Don't know, ask the guys in PWA. Guess I just want to be a smart alec toward a topic that seems to just go back and forth and never get anywhere. Try to keep the peace a little. Would you like me to stop?
Nothing wrong with people voicing their disappointment. The option is not a big deal to many but I don't mind reading why people have a problem with it. I always thought it was gimicky anyways.
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So are you saying those who did pre-order without test driving the car were stupid? Who said it wasn't a great car?
If the shoe fits. Most of us felt like: Silver Streak: If you are still complaining about the Camaro, you need to re-evaluate!" I know I quote that a lot, but it's true. I think most of the pre-order peeps knew the Camaro was going to be a GREAT performance car that would get a lot of second looks. The pretty stuff would have been a bonus, but not a priority. My friends on here mostly bought the base model SS, so they can do their "Thang" to it the way they want it. Myself, I'm just content with the fact that it's going to be a SWEET car. If you pre-ordered based on ABL or any other computer generated photo with fine print..."your bad"...not GMs.

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There should have been no expectations about ABL... I don't believe it was in any literature, or on any website, or promoted by GM. All the info and pictures came from leaked information, right? So you're not getting anything you weren't originally supposed to or paid for. If this was any other car, they could have scrapped it any no one would have known. I guarantee this is the last time GM or any car maker provides or discusses so much information about a car before it's released...bites them in the ass when people beat it to death.
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......but this thread can't die until it's gone beyond 30 pages
It's only on 5 now. Got a long way to go.
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There should have been no expectations about ABL... I don't believe it was in any literature, or on any website, or promoted by GM. All the info and pictures came from leaked information, right? So you're not getting anything you weren't originally supposed to or paid for. If this was any other car, they could have scrapped it any no one would have known. I guarantee this is the last time GM or any car maker provides or discusses so much information about a car before it's released...bites them in the ass when people beat it to death.
The Initial Ordering Workbook had a picture in it showing the ABL and the Chevrolet website showed a computer generated video showing how ABL worked so yes, it was marketed and the information is not based on rumor or speculation.
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7 pages and counting...
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I for one am glad that it isn't on the dash. Ambient lighting is distracting as hell during night driving so I turn any lighting off if possible if I'm driving a car that has it.
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let me compare something here

1LT
+ RS package
+ connectivity
+ boston accoustic
= $27,340

2LT
+ RS package
= $28,780

so... for about $1,500 more you get what, leather seats, four pack gauges and a not-so-finished ambient lighting?!
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does anybody know what the abl will be made with? LED or some type of tubing?
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Nothing wrong with people voicing their disappointment. The option is not a big deal to many but I don't mind reading why people have a problem with it. I always thought it was gimicky anyways.
Actually, I felt the same way. Like a guy at a car show would put in his Nissan or something. But I don't think it's anything to argue about. That's not what I like to do. But I do like to talk about it. I posted in the other thread a simple statement and got jumped on. I have thick skin but I do want to participate in the discusion. Which is why I was staying away from it. Just a bunch of arguing but this 'breaking 'news was interesting and new so here I am. But, dude if I'm bothering you I'll just bounce. No problem. I've enjoyed killing the last 4 hrs. By the way I don't even know what a post count is for. But I'll be here til the Mods boot me.
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This is the proper analogy -- imagine that your favorite fast-food chain runs commercials promoting a new burger that will be coming out soon including showing "pre-release" pictures of what the burger will "look like" -- and you believe, based on early marketing materials, it will have three slices of red onion. When the day approaches, however, you notice that the commercial has changed slightly and the picture only shows two slices of onion and they are white! <gasp>

It would be unreasonable to think that you should be able to demand a five-cent discount when you go to buy one because it doesn't match your earlier vision of the burger but it would be simply ridiculous for someone else to suggest that you should should prostrate yourself at the feet of some fast-food magnate for honoring you with the privilege of buying their burger.

Or am I missing something here?
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