The Pittsburgh Thread

[Seer]

Originally Posted by Swacer

Oh I'm fine with that. But cant hate someone for hoping for a few more mpg out of it.

Actually a lot of people are guessing Ford will spin off SVT as a seperate brand like Chrysler did with SRT to avoid the CAFE standards due to lower production.

[Swacer]

Originally Posted by Seer

Actually a lot of people are guessing Ford will spin off SVT as a seperate brand like Chrysler did with SRT to avoid the CAFE standards due to lower production.

I thought SRT and Ram were split off from Dodge per the deal with Fiat?

[Seer]

Originally Posted by Swacer

I thought SRT and Ram were split off from Dodge per the deal with Fiat?

What part of what I wrote did not compute?

Chrysler owns Dodge. The brands were removed as a strategy to avoid excessive taxation due to upcoming CAFE standards and a way to allow low production performance vehicles to not be super expensive.

[Swacer]

Originally Posted by Seer

What part of what I wrote did not compute?

Raised eyebrow....

Chrysler has no say in anything. Fiat does.

[Kilo-9]

Originally Posted by demonspeed

I don't know that chant.

Neither do I.

[demonspeed]

Originally Posted by Swacer

Raised eyebrow....

Chrysler has no say in anything. Fiat does.

I do not believe it was due to Fiat buying Chrysler.

From my understanding, their tier is Fiat SpA as the encompassing owner over Chrysler Group, LLC.

Chrysler Group, LLC is the parent of Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat (just the brand, not the entity), Jeep, Ram, and SRT.

[Swacer]

Originally Posted by demonspeed

I do not believe it was due to Fiat buying Chrysler.

From my understanding, their tier is Fiat SpA as the encompassing owner over Chrysler Group, LLC.

Chrysler Group, LLC is the parent of Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat (just the brand, not the entity), Jeep, Ram, and SRT.

Well now...color me corrected haha

[demonspeed]

Originally Posted by Swacer

Well now...color me corrected haha

I guess it's like saying Chrysler Group is to Fiat SpA as Westinghouse is to Toshiba.

[Trav2SS]

Well to me and my wallet 6k is a huge difference, thats like v6 vs v8 camaro and that argument, and I wouldn't buy one that was just a base model, even for a raptor, I would want some options. When I compared last time there was about a 10k price difference between the mustang/camaro vs raptors $

Alot of people by v6's still, personally I hate them in a fullsize truck/suv and won't even consider one that has a 6 in it. But some people never tow or need the power so it works for them.

Well I am Not sure the dimensions on the race trailor you speak of they haul, but quad cab dually f450 with a loaded 5th trailer and how high they are, etc just based on surface space will suffer more for mpg, all I know for him on the open road going coast to coast its 8-14 usually loaded up on his last hike.

And yes good healthy kidneys can pull around 30k~ lol

[Seer]

Originally Posted by Swacer

Raised eyebrow....

Chrysler has no say in anything. Fiat does.

Umm, no.

The removal of RAM and SRT was in the strategic plan long before Fiat. Corporations do not turn on a dime, they are more like long ocean liners, it takes time and a lot of effort to move them in different directions.

Ask me how I know, corporate re-engineering is what I do.

[Trav2SS]

1 big ice berg can move an ocean liner in a direction it didn't expect to be going..

[Seer]

Originally Posted by Trav2SS

1 big ice berg can move an ocean liner in a direction it didn't expect to be going..

It's always best to hit those head on and get stuck, don't try and make a sharp turn and scrape the side, ask Edward Smith how he knows this.

[Trav2SS]

Speaking of sharp turn, did anyone else see the Battleship movie? When they turned the ship? I'm sorry.. but they had me sold till that point on the story.. then I was like, oh really... come'on...

[tahseenmahmood]

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