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Maurdib · 05-19-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vgav1221

Get the ark Slant tips ,

I know they might be better for the TT, but I don't know if I can take the drone before and after

Maurdib · 05-23-2011, 12:55 PM

No updates since the good news?

IPSjeff · 05-23-2011, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurdib

No updates since the good news?

We are working on testing the various stock fuel components now. The *Hope* was that we were not going to have to provide any fuel upgrades to go with the kit and we would be able to make a solid 400rwhp on stock components. Unfortunately that is not the case.

The TT Kit is perfect as-is but it makes too much power

Obviously we could just turn it back a little (In terms of boost) but that sort of defeats the purpose of the kit -- to make more power than a bolt-on SS for a reasonable amount of money.

We will get it figured out...
Jeff

Maurdib · 05-23-2011, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IPSjeff

We are working on testing the various stock fuel components now. The *Hope* was that we were not going to have to provide any fuel upgrades to go with the kit and we would be able to make a solid 400rwhp on stock components. Unfortunately that is not the case.

The TT Kit is perfect as-is but it makes too much power

Obviously we could just turn it back a little (In terms of boost) but that sort of defeats the purpose of the kit -- to make more power than a bolt-on SS for a reasonable amount of money.

We will get it figured out...
Jeff

Thanks really hoping you guys get this out the way you want it. I'll take a clean/reliable 400rwhp system any day versus a higher power unstabble version

Beauwulf · 05-23-2011, 07:19 PM

Hmmm... is Gretchen having the same problems then? I thought they had the injector pressures available up to around 2200 PSI. Your setup requires more?

Orange5thGen · 05-23-2011, 09:52 PM

I don't think it's the injectors.....the pumps providing the fuel....

Beauwulf · 05-23-2011, 10:12 PM

I guess they ran out of duration on the injector then? New injectors for this motor are probably going to be expensive if they can even find any. If they maxed out the pressure too, the only thing to do is get bigger nozzles or a higher rated pump. Looks like the cost is going up if you want more than the 400 they have now.

Is the car drivable with the current setup? Did it go lean on top for that pull at 404?

Orange5thGen · 05-23-2011, 11:26 PM

No it went lean at 420+ run so Vince is also trying to get the rich spike fixed in the middle as well. I think at the 395 run at the top end it was at 11.5-7 which I thought was good....

Now if we can put it on a dynojet we should be safe at 440-450 rwhp range...

Beauwulf · 05-24-2011, 06:22 AM

430-450 works for me! That's about as much as I'd want to put on the rest of the drive train anyway. Just so long as it's "tractable" power... What RPM did it make full boost at?

Boost6924 · 05-24-2011, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauwulf

I guess they ran out of duration on the injector then?

Because DFI runs so high injector pressure and such a short duty cycle (around20% versus 60-80% in normal port injection) pump probably run out of juice. This is very hard to figure out on DFI cars, before you actually start to test the fuel system with more demand. Then you start to find the weak links in the fuel system...

Orange5thGen · 05-24-2011, 07:27 AM

I think it was peak torque was 366 at 3900rpm with my 21's and boost was still climbing but we stopped at right after 6K? The power line is very cool tourque stay at 300-366 then backs off a little after 4600... Does that make sense? I think big boost is at the 3900-4500 range theats the area we are trying to get ironed out right now with the fuel rich spike at 4539 then the power starts climbing again...

This is all on 87 octane fuel too...

jagan323 · 05-24-2011, 07:49 AM

no knocking issues with 87 Octane? o_O

Can't_C_Me · 05-24-2011, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange5thGen

I think it was peak torque was 366 at 3900rpm with my 21's and boost was still climbing but we stopped at right after 6K? The power line is very cool tourque stay at 300-366 then backs off a little after 4600... Does that make sense? I think big boost is at the 3900-4500 range theats the area we are trying to get ironed out right now with the fuel rich spike at 4539 then the power starts climbing again...

This is all on 87 octane fuel too...

Gotta love this LLT engine

TJ91 · 05-24-2011, 08:47 AM

if I can run this on 87, im in to do this mod next summer

87 is like $5 a gallon here

05-23-2011, 12:55 PM	#464
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	No updates since the good news? __________________ BackInBlack Performance:Vararam cold air intake

05-23-2011, 07:19 PM	#467
Beauwulf Drives: '10 LT RS A6 & '04 Acura RSX Type S Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,549 View My Garage	Hmmm... is Gretchen having the same problems then? I thought they had the injector pressures available up to around 2200 PSI. Your setup requires more? __________________

05-23-2011, 09:52 PM	#468
Orange5thGen Drives: 2011 Convert Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,052 View My Garage	I don't think it's the injectors.....the pumps providing the fuel.... __________________ Come see me at www.chicago5thgen.com TEAM LLT, , 2011 Covertible 1LT RS, JDM Color Shift Halo's, Showstopper Camaro Bowtie Led Mirrors, Side Markers and Engine Cover, Pace Setter Catback Exhaust, BK Coilover Kit, 21" Full Crome GM wheels, Tinted windows, I WIN BEARS Plate. Full amber ABL dash and door update with IOM interior panels.

05-23-2011, 10:12 PM	#469
Beauwulf Drives: '10 LT RS A6 & '04 Acura RSX Type S Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,549 View My Garage	I guess they ran out of duration on the injector then? New injectors for this motor are probably going to be expensive if they can even find any. If they maxed out the pressure too, the only thing to do is get bigger nozzles or a higher rated pump. Looks like the cost is going up if you want more than the 400 they have now. Is the car drivable with the current setup? Did it go lean on top for that pull at 404? __________________

05-23-2011, 11:26 PM	#470
Orange5thGen Drives: 2011 Convert Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,052 View My Garage	No it went lean at 420+ run so Vince is also trying to get the rich spike fixed in the middle as well. I think at the 395 run at the top end it was at 11.5-7 which I thought was good.... Now if we can put it on a dynojet we should be safe at 440-450 rwhp range... __________________ Come see me at www.chicago5thgen.com TEAM LLT, , 2011 Covertible 1LT RS, JDM Color Shift Halo's, Showstopper Camaro Bowtie Led Mirrors, Side Markers and Engine Cover, Pace Setter Catback Exhaust, BK Coilover Kit, 21" Full Crome GM wheels, Tinted windows, I WIN BEARS Plate. Full amber ABL dash and door update with IOM interior panels.

05-24-2011, 06:22 AM	#471
Beauwulf Drives: '10 LT RS A6 & '04 Acura RSX Type S Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,549 View My Garage	430-450 works for me! That's about as much as I'd want to put on the rest of the drive train anyway. Just so long as it's "tractable" power... What RPM did it make full boost at? __________________

05-24-2011, 07:27 AM	#473
Orange5thGen Drives: 2011 Convert Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,052 View My Garage	I think it was peak torque was 366 at 3900rpm with my 21's and boost was still climbing but we stopped at right after 6K? The power line is very cool tourque stay at 300-366 then backs off a little after 4600... Does that make sense? I think big boost is at the 3900-4500 range theats the area we are trying to get ironed out right now with the fuel rich spike at 4539 then the power starts climbing again... This is all on 87 octane fuel too... __________________ Come see me at www.chicago5thgen.com TEAM LLT, , 2011 Covertible 1LT RS, JDM Color Shift Halo's, Showstopper Camaro Bowtie Led Mirrors, Side Markers and Engine Cover, Pace Setter Catback Exhaust, BK Coilover Kit, 21" Full Crome GM wheels, Tinted windows, I WIN BEARS Plate. Full amber ABL dash and door update with IOM interior panels.

05-24-2011, 07:49 AM	#474
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05-24-2011, 08:47 AM	#476
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