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rolnslo · 10-15-2010, 05:14 PM

That's kind of scary. Wonder what mine has floating around in it....

I think I'll just drive the crap out of mine until it gives up again. I've got about 7k on the new transmission but none of the problems (yet) that I had with the original one.

diamondmike · 10-15-2010, 05:45 PM

i found that my car dont like when i put my arm on the console. if it grinds going in to 2nd grear take your arm off and pull straight back gentlely. the car does not like to be forced.

CAMAR0 · 10-15-2010, 05:53 PM

All of the metal chunks that came out were attached to the magnetic drain plug. The pieces were 1mm x 1mm x 2mm.

On the bright side the fluid does help it feel smoother. Hopefully it can patch up the pieces of missing gear that I found. Crap...

transamguy · 10-15-2010, 09:14 PM

got my car back from the dealer for the trannt fluid change and same problem they said they are going to order 2nd gear and replace the gear to try to fix it. just for curiosity does anyone have any experience with the lemon laws on this issue? because if the new gear dosent fix it i belive the car can be lemoned correct?

CAMAR0 · 10-15-2010, 10:08 PM

In Indiana they get 4 repair attempts and up to 30 business days to get it fixed. It varies by state.

The pictures turned out awesome. You guys are going to be sick when you see these pieces of the gear that are shredded.

CAMAR0 · 10-15-2010, 10:27 PM

This is what I found after swapping the fluid after 1200 miles on my replacement transmission. Look closely at the pieces and you can see that they are clearly the edge of the gear, most likely 2nd gear.

To put things in perspective the drain plug takes a 15/16" socket to remove.

Sludge/Metal Drain Cap

After some brake cleaner

The fluid change helps the overall feel but it is still a bit notchy. If this much of the gear is gone after 1200 miles how long is the rest going to last?? The first one made it 5300 miles but I am babying it much more now though..

SummitWhiteLS · 10-16-2010, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAMAR0

This is what I found after swapping the fluid after 1200 miles on my replacement transmission ...

Ahhh, the trannie didn't need those pieces anyways ...

UPDATE:
Just called Aysin. They said finding shredded trannie parts on the drain plug is normal, that their trannie was designed to self destruct.

(jk)

CAMAR0 · 10-16-2010, 09:14 AM

Ha, ya my dealer is going to say that when i show them this. The black sludge is odd because the fluid was still a clear yellow. The black was metal dust buildup on the magnet that washed off with brake parts cleaner. Im not a transmission expert obviously but this scares me to see this much debris this early on.. They are clearly the edges of the gears too (i wish my camera would have zoomed more :( )

CAMAR0 · 10-16-2010, 10:07 AM

Mobil 1 is giving a much more unpredictable feel. It feels much smoother sometimes and this morning with 45f outside it refuses to engage a few times.

Going to lucas oil next.

nak3dsnake · 10-16-2010, 12:14 PM

It crunch last night downshifting into 2nd gear after some spirited driving. I was slowing down to stop for a red light getting off the free way, it changed to green before I got to it, I downshifted and crunch. Rage!

CAMAR0 · 10-16-2010, 07:55 PM

Awesome photos!

c_LoW29 · 10-19-2010, 12:15 PM

Just an update:

Dealer is putting my car on the lift first thing this morning to take down the transmission and replace the sycronizers. They said I will have my car back this week so I will be taking a day off of work to pick it up first thing the morning of and test driving it with the service manager if the problem isnt fixed then im not taking the car.

c_LoW29 · 10-22-2010, 09:24 AM

Picking up the car today at 12 so lets see how she runs with new 1s and 2nd syncronizers

CAMAR0 · 10-22-2010, 09:28 AM

Congrats! Let us know how it goes.

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10-15-2010, 05:14 PM	#463
rolnslo Rolling along... Drives: 2011 2SS/RS SGM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,366 View My Garage	That's kind of scary. Wonder what mine has floating around in it.... I think I'll just drive the crap out of mine until it gives up again. I've got about 7k on the new transmission but none of the problems (yet) that I had with the original one. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Synergy Green A6

10-15-2010, 05:45 PM	#464
diamondmike Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Destin, fl Posts: 441	i found that my car dont like when i put my arm on the console. if it grinds going in to 2nd grear take your arm off and pull straight back gentlely. the car does not like to be forced. __________________ 7.83 @ 172 and 1.15 60ft 5th gen 4.93@143

10-15-2010, 10:27 PM	#468
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	The Evidence This is what I found after swapping the fluid after 1200 miles on my replacement transmission. Look closely at the pieces and you can see that they are clearly the edge of the gear, most likely 2nd gear. To put things in perspective the drain plug takes a 15/16" socket to remove. Sludge/Metal Drain Cap After some brake cleaner The fluid change helps the overall feel but it is still a bit notchy. If this much of the gear is gone after 1200 miles how long is the rest going to last?? The first one made it 5300 miles but I am babying it much more now though.. Last edited by CAMAR0; 10-15-2010 at 10:57 PM.

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10-15-2010, 05:53 PM	#465
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	All of the metal chunks that came out were attached to the magnetic drain plug. The pieces were 1mm x 1mm x 2mm. On the bright side the fluid does help it feel smoother. Hopefully it can patch up the pieces of missing gear that I found. Crap...

10-15-2010, 09:14 PM	#466
transamguy Drives: 10 camaro LT(syn) Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: toronto Posts: 40	got my car back from the dealer for the trannt fluid change and same problem they said they are going to order 2nd gear and replace the gear to try to fix it. just for curiosity does anyone have any experience with the lemon laws on this issue? because if the new gear dosent fix it i belive the car can be lemoned correct?

10-15-2010, 10:08 PM	#467
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	In Indiana they get 4 repair attempts and up to 30 business days to get it fixed. It varies by state. The pictures turned out awesome. You guys are going to be sick when you see these pieces of the gear that are shredded.

10-16-2010, 09:14 AM	#470
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	Ha, ya my dealer is going to say that when i show them this. The black sludge is odd because the fluid was still a clear yellow. The black was metal dust buildup on the magnet that washed off with brake parts cleaner. Im not a transmission expert obviously but this scares me to see this much debris this early on.. They are clearly the edges of the gears too (i wish my camera would have zoomed more :( )

10-16-2010, 10:07 AM	#471
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	Mobil 1 is giving a much more unpredictable feel. It feels much smoother sometimes and this morning with 45f outside it refuses to engage a few times. Going to lucas oil next.

10-16-2010, 12:14 PM	#472
nak3dsnake Drives: 2010 Camaro IBM 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,282 View My Garage	It crunch last night downshifting into 2nd gear after some spirited driving. I was slowing down to stop for a red light getting off the free way, it changed to green before I got to it, I downshifted and crunch. Rage!

10-16-2010, 07:55 PM	#473
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	Awesome photos!

10-19-2010, 12:15 PM	#474
c_LoW29 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS, 2010 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2010 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 2,412 View My Garage	Just an update: Dealer is putting my car on the lift first thing this morning to take down the transmission and replace the sycronizers. They said I will have my car back this week so I will be taking a day off of work to pick it up first thing the morning of and test driving it with the service manager if the problem isnt fixed then im not taking the car.

10-22-2010, 09:24 AM	#475
c_LoW29 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS, 2010 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2010 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 2,412 View My Garage	Picking up the car today at 12 so lets see how she runs with new 1s and 2nd syncronizers

10-22-2010, 09:28 AM	#476
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	Congrats! Let us know how it goes.