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jessrayo · 08-11-2014, 11:12 AM

Well the 6th generation Camaro is supposed to be lighter by every account. I say watch what Cadillac finally comes out with on the next CTS-V and you will have a pretty good guess what the next ZL1 power-plant will be. I think they have enough time to bump power up a little in the camaro just like they did the last time.

hotlap · 08-11-2014, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jessrayo

Well the 6th generation Camaro is supposed to be lighter by every account. I say watch what Cadillac finally comes out with on the next CTS-V and you will have a pretty good guess what the next ZL1 power-plant will be. I think they have enough time to bump power up a little in the camaro just like they did the last time.

"....speculation involves what will power the CTS-V. The most common guess is a version of the 6.2-liter supercharged LT4 V8...

"Cadillac’s CTS-V prototype comes roaring down the straight towards a sharp right hander, its V8 bellow echoed by the unmistakable high-pitched whine of a supercharger."

Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/07/...#ixzz3A6JnrgkE

tones2SS · 08-11-2014, 07:12 PM

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"....speculation involves what will power the CTS-V. The most common guess is a version of the 6.2-liter supercharged LT4 V8...
"Cadillac’s CTS-V prototype comes roaring down the straight towards a sharp right hander, its V8 bellow echoed by the unmistakable high-pitched whine of a supercharger."

I LOVE it!

SS Jett · 08-13-2014, 01:45 PM

Charger is getting the same 707 hp engine.

motorhead · 08-13-2014, 01:48 PM

So much for weight being the answer to all our ills. The charger is heavier than the challenger yet faster in the 1/4 and top speed. No substitute for HP and Areo.

MEDISIN · 08-13-2014, 02:02 PM

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So much for weight being the answer to all our ills. The charger is heavier than the challenger yet faster in the 1/4 and top speed. No substitute for HP and Areo.

Weight still plays a critical factor as does gearing in terms of straight line acceleration. The Challenger will still be marginally faster than the Charger around a track. 4550lbs is a lot of weight to throw around.

If the next generation V/ZL1 do receive the 650hp LT4 and weigh 4,000lbs or so, it will be a drivers race in the straights vs the Hellcat twins.

motorhead · 08-13-2014, 02:06 PM

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Weight still plays a critical factor as does gearing in terms of straight line acceleration. The Challenger will still be marginally faster than the Charger around a track. 4550lbs is a lot of weight to throw around.

If the next generation V/ZL1 do receive the 650hp LT4 and weigh 4,000lbs or so, it will be a drivers race in the straights vs the Hellcat twins.

No doubt on a road course about weight. I'm really hoping to see a 650hp, 4,000lb car with any name on it come out of the GM camp. That would be a came changer for sure.

Taser Deployed · 08-13-2014, 06:50 PM

It's going to be interesting to see how GM handles this because I believe that Dodge is making everyone change their game plan.

Sven59 · 08-13-2014, 07:21 PM

I don't think it changed anything, hopefully the GT500 was all the kick in the pants they needed.

motorhead · 08-13-2014, 07:35 PM

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I don't think it changed anything, hopefully the GT500 was all the kick in the pants they needed.

The game changer is now we get beat by two Dodge products with our ZL1s, and the harder kick in the pants is from a four door sedan. Ouch!

Sven59 · 08-13-2014, 07:43 PM

A four door sedan? Sorry not the same category.

motorhead · 08-13-2014, 07:52 PM

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A four door sedan? Sorry not the same category.

Yeah, that's what sucks about it. Four door sedans are supposed to be people movers and grocery getters not ZL1 killers.

Drumminxx · 08-13-2014, 08:29 PM

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A four door sedan? Sorry not the same category.

What category? a four door sedan that kills muscle cars or that it's not your average 4 door sedan?

Sven59 · 08-13-2014, 08:50 PM

If you include 4 door sedans then why not compare the corvette.

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jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	Well the 6th generation Camaro is supposed to be lighter by every account. I say watch what Cadillac finally comes out with on the next CTS-V and you will have a pretty good guess what the next ZL1 power-plant will be. I think they have enough time to bump power up a little in the camaro just like they did the last time. __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.

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Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,387	I don't think it changed anything, hopefully the GT500 was all the kick in the pants they needed. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"

08-13-2014, 07:43 PM	#487
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,387	A four door sedan? Sorry not the same category. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"

08-13-2014, 08:50 PM	#490
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,387	If you include 4 door sedans then why not compare the corvette. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"

08-13-2014, 01:45 PM	#480
SS Jett Drives: 2013 ZL1 #17 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 71	Charger is getting the same 707 hp engine.

08-13-2014, 01:48 PM	#481
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	So much for weight being the answer to all our ills. The charger is heavier than the challenger yet faster in the 1/4 and top speed. No substitute for HP and Areo.

08-13-2014, 06:50 PM	#484
Taser Deployed Drives: 2012 Blk ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 938	It's going to be interesting to see how GM handles this because I believe that Dodge is making everyone change their game plan.