What is up with people hating on the V6?

[Sc0rPs]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

see thats makes sense i understand that .... and btw i would never enter a stock camaro into a competition maybe you v6s owners think we would because your v6 seems pretty fast to you and think the v8 is really fast.. but even the v8 isn't really that fast stock... maybe for everyday driving


i went to the drag one time with my camaro with CAI and cat back and was one of the slowest cars there... i might go again next year with 500 hp now ....

Glad you understand, but I don't see any car as 'fast' or 'slow'. Basically, one car is capable of going faster than another... and there will ALWAYS be a car that's faster than that one.

So yes, the V6 is fast and the V8 is faster... get it? For me there is no point in a V8.

On my 89 Firebird Formula was a 305 V8, and I took good care of it but never really raced except off of red lights to smoke a few Mustangs... but seriously if it was a regular Firebird V6 it would have made hardly any difference.

Then I got a 96 Ford Explorer Limited with also a V8 210HP (I think), since it's a big vehicle and I often loaded stuff into it I thought it would make sense. Aside the V8 having a automatic transmission and front hubs that are capable of handling the power there wouldn't have been much of a difference either.

So the 2010 Camaro V6 312HP has more power than those previous V8's. Knowing my needs by now and how I drive it's already more than enough making the V8 400HP just a waste of money.

[Sc0rPs]

Originally Posted by ss=scuba steve

I am definitly NOT a V6 hater, but saying a 2LT may be faster than the Z/28 at any point is a little silly. Do you have any clue how much money you would have to put into the 2LT to make it faster than the Z ? You might as well just buy the Z.... Again, not hatin on the V6 just saying you are talking outta your hiney..... I think V6 purists will even vouche for me on that one.

Ah, sorry I should have been a little more clear. See, my 2LT will become my little project and mentioned I'm gutting it. Should mention it'll be converted over to electric like a Tesla. So yes, it may become one of the fastest Camaros on the planet depending on what I want to put into it. Electric has a huge advantage off the line vs combustion engine.

[ss=scuba steve]

Originally Posted by Sc0rPs

Ah, sorry I should have been a little more clear. See, my 2LT will become my little project and mentioned I'm gutting it. Should mention it'll be converted over to electric like a Tesla. So yes, it may become one of the fastest Camaros on the planet depending on what I want to put into it. Electric has a huge advantage off the line of combustion engine.

So yeah as I mentioned, you are going to put a rediculous amount of money into that car and it MIGHT keep up with the Z/28 (if you are very lucky). I will again put the disclaimer that I'm not trying to be a V6 hater, but you are talkin outta your ass sir. A project like you are describing you buy a V8 and mod it a little and end up with the same results if not better...

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by ss=scuba steve

So yeah as I mentioned, you are going to put a rediculous amount of money into that car and it MIGHT keep up with the Z/28 (if you are very lucky). I will again put the disclaimer that I'm not trying to be a V6 hater, but you are talkin outta your ass sir. A project like you are describing you buy a V8 and mod it a little and end up with the same results if not better...

Yeah, but what is the fun in that? He'll have a car he built to be just what he wanted. It won't be like yours, it won't be like mine, IT WILL BE HIS. Some people prefer to do their own thing.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by Nathan Moreno

Ok, I didn't bother reading the thread because it's all the same haha...

SO, here is the ultimate end-all of "v6 vs v8" question.

V6 owners, would you buy a v8 if you paid the same for insurance and gas?

Explain your answer.

I assume you mean the SS and not just any V8. In that case the answer is yes, even ignoring gas and insurance (although I think that is a legit concern for many). I almost had enough for the vette, but my dealer knew how much I love green. When he told me I could get the Synergy, I had to drive a V6. Loved it. Went home and did a little research and saw what potential this engine has. It already puts out 86.7 HP/Liter vs. the 68.7 for the LS3. BMW and Mazda are putting out impressive power and speed with similar engines. Modded Mazdaspeed3s are putting 350+ HP to the wheels on a 3200 lb. car. This technology is the future and I wanted in on it. I love the challenge it presents and all the hours of fun I'm having working on it. Actually having to sit down and design a twin turbo from scratch because no one has ever done it for this car is a lot more fun than buying a kit in my book. You want easy power, I want fun, challenging power.

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[AlohaBR]

Originally Posted by Nathan Moreno

Ok, I didn't bother reading the thread because it's all the same haha...

SO, here is the ultimate end-all of "v6 vs v8" question.

V6 owners, would you buy a v8 if you paid the same for insurance and gas?

Explain your answer.

1) I have other Camaros with V8 power.
2) I am replacing a daily driver that got 11-14mpg
3) I drive appx 40k miles a year, if I get 2-5 mpg better in the V6, than the V8, you do the math.
4) IF the insurance and gas were the same I would still get the V6 for the MILEAGE!
5) If I want to go tear up a track or have DIFFERENT fun(load exhaust, sound of V8) I will pull out one of my other Camaros, which also see about 3-5k miles a piece per year.

[ffrcobra_65]

i really think for the most part, it isn't the V6 camaro that people have problem with, its their poseour owners who seem to live in a dream world where a 3700+ pound car making ONLY 260+- RWHP is supposed to be "musclecar" in this day and age of monster 600hp cars. Sure it feels fast but it isn't fast. A Silverado feels fast, too. Now if this is your first 260rwhp car, then that's understable. blah blah blah makes more power than V8 Camaros of the past, blah blah, cost less in gas and insurance, blah blah, its a donor car for future mods.
Yo MikeSS, how is the carwash business doing? Slow I imagine these days.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

i really think for the most part, it isn't the V6 camaro that people have problem with, its their poseour owners who seem to live in a dream world where a 3700+ pound car making ONLY 260+- RWHP is supposed to be "musclecar" in this day and age of monster 600hp cars. Sure it feels fast but it isn't fast. A Silverado feels fast, too. Now if this is your first 260rwhp car, then that's understable. blah blah blah makes more power than V8 Camaros of the past, blah blah, cost less in gas and insurance, blah blah, its a donor car for future mods.
Yo MikeSS, how is the carwash business doing? Slow I imagine these days.

lol.. ya usually slower, last saturday we did 400 cars... randomly it gets busy. but usually slower. the wash i work has a really good location.. so we get allot of business.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

i really think for the most part, it isn't the V6 camaro that people have problem with, its their poseour owners who seem to live in a dream world where a 3700+ pound car making ONLY 260+- RWHP is supposed to be "musclecar" in this day and age of monster 600hp cars. Sure it feels fast but it isn't fast. A Silverado feels fast, too. Now if this is your first 260rwhp car, then that's understable. blah blah blah makes more power than V8 Camaros of the past, blah blah, cost less in gas and insurance, blah blah, its a donor car for future mods.
Yo MikeSS, how is the carwash business doing? Slow I imagine these days.

So, in the world of 600 HP cars, would the folks that bought the SS also be "poseour owners" too because they only get 400-426 on a heaver car? Would the owner of a V6 that has 600 HP be more or less of a "poseour owner" than a SS owner with 426 HP? And where does the owner of a 650 HP I-4 fit into this scheme? Just trying to understand your logic here.

[pennor]

Originally Posted by Nathan Moreno
Ok, here is the ultimate end-all of "v6 vs v8" question.

V6 owners, would you buy a v8 if you paid the same for insurance and gas?

Explain your answer.

Here's my quick, sort and to the point answer: NO!

I've owned two Z/28's in my life. A '68 and a '79. Both nice cars.

The '68 was a lemon though. It went through clutches and push rods like they were wiper blades. I traded the '68 on a '73 Vette and never looked back.

The '79 Z/28 I bought new and drove it for 16 years. It was a muscle car in name and badging only. The 350 it had turned out less HP than my new 2011 V6. But it was a nice cruiser and I used it as a family car when my kids were younger.

Now I'm on my current Camaro, a V6 2LT/RS. I wanted another cruiser and it will get used like the '79 of old, but it's got a lot more power and feels sportier than the '79. It's a lot heavier and feels much bigger than the '68. And it sure doesn't have the shear power of that old 302. But I think it will be more reliable, and where the '68 was getting 12MPG on a good day, and the '79 got about 16MPG on it's good day, I expect the 2011 to give me 23-24MPG after if get broken in in daily driving.

Yup, I love my new one. I loved my old ones too. All 3 were different beasts, but I have no regrets at buying the V6 this time.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

So, in the world of 600 HP cars, would the folks that bought the SS also be "poseour owners" too because they only get 400-426 on a heaver car? Would the owner of a V6 that has 600 HP be more or less of a "poseour owner" than a SS owner with 426 HP? And where does the owner of a 650 HP I-4 fit into this scheme? Just trying to understand your logic here.

went right over....

anyway, yep you are right. V6 is a musclecar. Mike's SS is more "muscular" though.

[Moreno1]

Originally Posted by Rip

Like me - like you stole it.

Originally Posted by mikeSS

i am getting 14.3 also... man its so hard not to drive this car hard . i actually hate it doing it but at the same time love it...

Yeah man, I'm telling ya... I have to force myself to not drive it hard LOL!