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Lingenfelter can offer a 616 horsepower LS7 because CAFE and emissions regulations do not apply to them.
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At the OEM level of detail, I think you'll find that Stielow et al have really "sweat the small stuff"... Last edited by LOWDOWN; 01-23-2014 at 03:54 PM. |
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01-23-2014, 01:49 PM | #523 | |
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A) Have seat, and a CAFE! Every time you add a horse, you have to feed it...whether it's a pony or a stallion, it has to be fed its oats... Every time you make those horses run...HARD!...you have two results: 1) Even more hay is required 2) "The old gray mare, she ain't what she used to be..." How much of LPE's charge for upgrade do you think they apportion for "be-backs" (warranty)? For 3 years or 36,000 miles? How much has each C6 Z06 cost GM for FIVE years and 100,000 miles-worth of coverage (I'm pretty sure GM has a number)? B) DEVELOPMENT CO$T$...re-certify, re-validate, re-emissions-test, re-this, re-that... You can ask, you can hope, you can wish, you can brow-beat (us AND them) BUT...ain't gonna happen... BTW, a cam and open LTs and a proper tune will have you approaching 600. Which shop will YOU choose? |
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My "inconsequential" comment was re lowering a ZL1 vis a vis its existing suspension. |
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OEM warranties are derived from validation. There isn't an aftermarket company that exists that tests to the standards of an OEM. Aftermarket companies set warranty based on their experience with a product and their level of confidence in a product. Companies like LPE have sufficient financial strength to back their warranty. On the OEM side, GM would have to fully validate a modified LS7 and there is no way it would be remotely close to cost effective.
If you think that the 5th Gen IRS puts power down more effectively through the corners than a C7 Corvette, you may also think a more powerful Z/28 could do something amazing at the Ring. TEAM Camaro and Chevy Performance could choose to take a modified LS7 in a Z/28 to the Ring with an off road / racing use only disclaimer IF they thought it would sell Chevy Performance heads, cam and ECM with 600 RWHP. No warranty. No EPA. Just bragging rights for the fastest car GM ever sent to the Ring. Not that any Chief Engineer at a Big Three company would ever think that way or that anyone from TEAM Camaro ever drops in to Camaro5. Lowdown, have you started that thread yet |
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I count (from your post) 77.9LB per car hence my ask for details on 40lb per corner re unsprung weight. BTW ZL1 can be purchased with stock wheels that are 12lb lighter each (not the Z/28 wheels but ZL1 specific ones offered from a factory). This would make the Z/28 unsprung mass about 30lb lighter than a ZL1 in total, if one sprung for optional wheels vs standard. Unless my 77.9LB total is incorrect?
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