2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT 500 650 HP! How will it stack up against the ZL1?

[SnoopyAce7]

i thought the 2012 zl1 was competing with the 2012 gt500? And then 2013 z28 vs 2013 gt500? Remember Chevy responds to Ford, come on guys

[ZL1 al Carbon]

I agree. This is going to continue to escalate on both sides.

[sed34]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

I guess you just skipped all the other information about it and decided to post.
Is priced more? Are you a Ford exec to know this already? Handling issues? Do you own a current one now? Traction issues, what car with over 550hp does not have traction issues when mashed to the floor? but it can be easily fixed in less than 1 hour.

oh boy...I read the thread as well as many others. They do have a record of just increasing the HP. It seems like up until recently they are trying to get a grip on their traction issues. They do have those issues when you increase it over 600HP as seen by many test tracks. Many cars can handle traction just fine with over 550hp. Even the super snake can only get 4.1s 0-60 times. I know they are counting on the HP number to drive sales. Besides a couple of minor tweaks to the zl1 will yield over 600HP and still keep the warranty and get further into the 11 second range.

[IcePick06]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

I guess you just skipped all the other information about it and decided to post.
Is priced more? Are you a Ford exec to know this already? Handling issues? Do you own a current one now? Traction issues, what car with over 550hp does not have traction issues when mashed to the floor? but it can be easily fixed in less than 1 hour.

All the magazines (motortrend, car and driver, etc) and several websites are already stating from market history that with such an increase in performance (and probably cost with the CF shaft) etc the car will probably cost about 25% more than the current model. I think Ford will be trying to go after the pockets of not just "would-be" ZL1 owners but also "big spenders" like Z06 owners and even some Porsche guys (except for the TURBO that thing is a beast ). If they weren't going after these consumers, the 200+mph Top Speed wouldn't be such a huge marketing tool (remember not too many cars out there can go over 200mph). If the actual performance backs up the numbers on paper I'd definitely expect a 20-25% price increase (maybe more once you add all the "packages" onto the build sheet) especially if Ford wants to play with Corvette Z06 Sales...pricing this car at $60k would be a bargain to a guy looking to buy a Z06 or even a 2+2 Porsche 911 coupe

I have faith in the ZL1 though. Remember FORD bumped their V8 up to 5.8 liters, the ZL1 has 6.2 Liters...so it potentially can go much higher than 650 HP with some tuning and tweaking. For $55k I'm happy with the ZL1, it's really as much as I wanna spend on a performance car right now anyway (I'm only 27 and married with a kid) so being that I KNOW FOR A FACT (Yes, Call me psychic if you want ) that the 2013 GT500 will be $60k or more I'm happy with my purchasing decision, even if the GT500 does a little better than the ZL1 stock for stock.

[sed34]

Originally Posted by SnoopyAce7

i thought the 2012 zl1 was competing with the 2012 gt500? And then 2013 z28 vs 2013 gt500? Remember Chevy responds to Ford, come on guys

[IOMZL1]

Originally Posted by SnoopyAce7

i thought the 2012 zl1 was competing with the 2012 gt500? And then 2013 z28 vs 2013 gt500? Remember Chevy responds to Ford, come on guys

No, no, no. We compare the years that suit our needs and support our arguments.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by IOMZL1

No, no, no. We compare the years that suit our needs and support our arguments.

[arod0619]

Props to Ford on the GT500, but lets not get ahead of ourselves here. Sure, on paper the GT500 looks better than the ZL1, but that means nothing if that extra power can't be transferred to performance. Seriously, who thought the Philadelphia Eagles were gonna be 3-6 ten weeks into the NFL season. They looked great on paper...let's wait a bit before we crown either one of these beasts king of the muscle car. The ZL1 ran the Nurburgring in a very respectable 7:41, lets see how the GT500 does. There are still a lot of things that are unknown about both of these cars

[syr74]

Originally Posted by SnoopyAce7

i thought the 2012 zl1 was competing with the 2012 gt500? And then 2013 z28 vs 2013 gt500? Remember Chevy responds to Ford, come on guys

2012 ZL1 hits dealer lots in Spring 2012.
2013 GT500 hits dealer lost in Spring 2012.

These cars are direct competitors, Chevy is just releasing a very late 2012 model while Ford is releasing a very early 2013 model.

[ironpeddler]

Why does this thread keep getting moved? Was in general discussion for a bit, Zl1 for a bit, another section, then back to the ZL1 section...

[pumpkinrancho]

No automatic, No legroom, No magnetic ride, NO THANKS ford. I wil have a ZL! as soon as the rag tops are available.

[Unreal]

Electronically adjustable shocks are an option on the GT500.

It will be interesting to see the potential of this motor. Swap a 4.0L whipple and make 900rwhp sounds like fun to me.

[archtaan]

Originally Posted by Unreal

Electronically adjustable shocks are an option on the GT500.

It will be interesting to see the potential of this motor. Swap a 4.0L whipple and make 900rwhp sounds like fun to me.

I am sure they are nowhere near as sophisticated as the ZL1's mag shocks. Probably comparable to the latest SRT8 Chargers electronic suspension. I'll bet they get the job done though.

[Trevorw24]

this GT500 is going to be a monster, damn Ford.