Will GM beat the kitty kat?

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Because more people oggled the Challenger than the Camaro. I attribute that to two things
The Hellcat is the latest and greatest and the ZL1 has been around since 2012, and the Hellcat was the bright Green and the Camaro was Silver, you have to admit that green jumps out and grabs attention while the silver is a blend into the background color.

Seriously. I laughed when I read that. Of course the Hellcat is going to get more attention. It has a MUCH flashier paint job and ZL1 has been out for a few years now, of course the the Hellcat is going to get more attention. Especially from the "general public."

[macwest]

Motor trend did a dyno

http://blogs.motortrend.com/1408_dyn...e_rollers.html

Hellcate: 635RWHP over 200+ top speed on roller.

ZL1: 472 RWHP

[BigBoyBlue]

Originally Posted by GenF-GTS

HP is fun and it has 707
ZL1 would be killer if it came stock as 700

And if the queen had balls she'd be king. We are stuck with our 580 stock, but I honestly wouldn't trade my car in for a Shelby or the Challenger. A C7 is another story though. There will always be someone faster in a straight line. Give me a car that can do it all. I was tempted by the Shelby, but the ZL1 just felt better to me.

[BigBoyBlue]

Originally Posted by ZL1-V

Might want to try and explain your opinion to the numerous members on here that counter that exact claim by modding their cars. Having owned mine since December 2012. I have changed my mind as I once had your opinion, 580HP is not enough once you learn how to drive this car. I haven't driven a 707HP vehicle yet!

Unless you track your car (at which point the ZL1 is better than the higher hp cars), anyone that does 90mph+ on the highways or streets is an idiot (not directed at anyone!). So I think the poster means that it is very hard to truly use 580hp on the street, much less 662 or 707.

[M3hta1]

Originally Posted by macwest

Motor trend did a dyno

http://blogs.motortrend.com/1408_dyn...e_rollers.html

Hellcate: 635RWHP over 200+ top speed on roller.

ZL1: 472 RWHP

So if I am reading that correctly, a supercharged ZL1 has the same numbers as my SS? I am still NA with a non aggressive cam.

[BigBoyBlue]

This quote from the Motor Trend comparison test article sums it up for me: "Testing director Kim Reynolds summed up the differences in personalities between the Camaro and Challenger best. After lapping the Hellcat as well as a Camaro 1LE that happened to be at the track, he pointed to the Camaro and said it felt like it was designed by McLaren or Red Bull's Formula 1 teams. The Hellcat, on the other hand, "feels like it was developed by [Hot Rod's] Freiburger and Finnegan.""

If I wanted to get 9s in the quarter I'd soup up a Chevy Chevette and destroy a Hellcat. Any goofball can build a dragster. Now go build a 7:41 Nurburgring car. Not so much.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Oddvious

Well that was quick

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...r_srt_hellcat/

The opening paragraph of that article is pretty awesome.

"Taking a look at some of America's most iconic manmade machines over the past century or so reveals much about our national psyche. The World War II Iowa class battleship was among the most powerful ever built, with 212,000 shaft horsepower, nine 16-inch guns, and a displacement of 58,000 tons by the time it went out of service. The big Grumman F6F Hellcat was one of the deadliest naval fighters of all time. The Saturn V rocket is the tallest, heaviest, and most powerful rocket ever made, producing more than 1 million pounds of thrust."

[ZL1-V]

Originally Posted by BigBoyBlue

Unless you track your car (at which point the ZL1 is better than the higher hp cars), anyone that does 90mph+ on the highways or streets is an idiot (not directed at anyone!). So I think the poster means that it is very hard to truly use 580hp on the street, much less 662 or 707.

Yes, I definitely was referring to the track! I am sure you have had those same "idiots", blow by you while cruising down the highway trying to prove their car is faster?

[macwest]

Originally Posted by M3hta1

So if I am reading that correctly, a supercharged ZL1 has the same numbers as my SS? I am still NA with a non aggressive cam.

Yep but ZL1 has more torque.

[BigBoyBlue]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The opening paragraph of that article is pretty awesome.

"Taking a look at some of America's most iconic manmade machines over the past century or so reveals much about our national psyche. The World War II Iowa class battleship was among the most powerful ever built, with 212,000 shaft horsepower, nine 16-inch guns, and a displacement of 58,000 tons by the time it went out of service. The big Grumman F6F Hellcat was one of the deadliest naval fighters of all time. The Saturn V rocket is the tallest, heaviest, and most powerful rocket ever made, producing more than 1 million pounds of thrust."

Yeah, my grandfather helped build the Hellcats at Grumman and then went off to fight in the European campaign, landing on Omaha beach at 35 years old! Man, that generation was unbelievable. Saddens me when I see us turning over terrorists for an AWOL soldier.

[GenF-GTS]

Originally Posted by BigBoyBlue

And if the queen had balls she'd be king. We are stuck with our 580 stock, but I honestly wouldn't trade my car in for a Shelby or the Challenger. A C7 is another story though. There will always be someone faster in a straight line. Give me a car that can do it all. I was tempted by the Shelby, but the ZL1 just felt better to me.

Check out my ride 2014 HSV Gen F GTS auto LSA, mods coming soon car is factory stock right now $105,000........cars like this down here cost a lot more but well worth it.

[benji276289]

Originally Posted by BigBoyBlue

Yeah, my grandfather helped build the Hellcats at Grumman and then went off to fight in the European campaign, landing on Omaha beach at 35 years old! Man, that generation was unbelievable. Saddens me when I see us turning over terrorists for an AWOL soldier.

How about withholding judgment until we hear what that "AWOL" soldier has to say.

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by M3hta1

So if I am reading that correctly, a supercharged ZL1 has the same numbers as my SS? I am still NA with a non aggressive cam.

Right, but don't forget your car is modded and the ZL1 is stock. Your car is modded and with a dyno tune. A dyno tune and mod tune is very and highly effective if done correctly.
The ZL1 may have a "conservative" tune from the factory as well. Not sure what the boost level is, stock, and what the tune is for.

[Brownster]

Originally Posted by benji276289

How about withholding judgment until we hear what that "AWOL" soldier has to say.

Seriously?
Why don't you ask the mothers of the fallen soldiers who went after him to withhold their judgement.